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Old 12-06-2013, 07:29 AM   #11
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but to call him one of the greatest human beings to ever lived when he killed hundreds of innocents is putting him on a pedestal. not trying to diminish from the good he did, just want to keep both eyes open

ps i dont want this to sound argumentative or douchey or self righteous or anything, just wanted to make those who were unaware aware of him before everyone got ahead of themselves. and its always great to pay attention to the entire story when reflecting on history. glad this opened a discusion to a degree :)
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Today in local TV news ignorance

Detroit Newscast Uses Photo of Alex Rodriguez for Nelson Mandela



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i heard on the radio this morning an interview with some celeb( i cant remember who it was) and she said " i will never forget his i had a dream speech"
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i heard on the radio this morning an interview with some celeb( i cant remember who it was) and she said " i will never forget his i had a dream speech"
I think it was Sarah Palin.
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but to call him one of the greatest human beings to ever lived when he killed hundreds of innocents is putting him on a pedestal. not trying to diminish from the good he did, just want to keep both eyes open

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He was a politician, and evidently there is only so much you can ask of that species. I think Mandela reached the upper echelons of what one can expect from a leader in terms of integrity and humanity. Apartheid was such a brutal system that it's a testament to his character that he was recognizably human in the least, let alone apparently humble and well-grounded by most accounts.
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much respect to this man. he fought for equality. it's just a shame so many people are racist on the inside.
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