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Old 01-17-2014, 01:13 AM   #1
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Default Executed man gasped for 10 minutes

Yep. Lets all gather round and watch a man die... . A good ol' fashion public execution... just like they do in Iran (and Al Qaeda controlled territories, and other, etc...). There is just something sinister about "good ol' folks" gathering around (in an audience) for a revenge killing in modern western / American society...esp with his own kids watching in the audience.

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McGuire was convicted in 1994 of the rape and murder of 22-year-old Joy Stewart, who was seven months pregnant. Her relatives were at Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville to witness his death, according to tweets from television reporter Sheila Gray.

McGuire's "children and daughter-in-law were crying and visibly upset," Gray tweeted.

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Old 01-17-2014, 08:35 AM   #2
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Yep. Lets all gather round and watch a man die... . A good ol' fashion public execution... just like they do in Iran (and Al Qaeda controlled territories, and other, etc...). There is just something sinister about "good ol' folks" gathering around (in an audience) for a revenge killing in modern western / American society...esp with his own kids watching in the audience.

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McGuire was convicted in 1994 of the rape and murder of 22-year-old Joy Stewart, who was seven months pregnant. Her relatives were at Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville to witness his death, according to tweets from television reporter Sheila Gray.

McGuire's "children and daughter-in-law were crying and visibly upset," Gray tweeted.

LINK: http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/16/justic...html?hpt=hp_c2
I think they should interview the victim's relatives and ask them and their children to explain to everyone how much better they feel right now -- or how much more "Christian" Ohio's "Pro-life" Gov. Kasich feels.

Especially twenty years after the fact.
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Default Re: Executed man gasped for 10 minutes

I tend to agree with you SteelerEmpire, and think the death penalty should be abolished altogether...but I can't pretend to even fathom how these family members of victims feel. Just thinking about someone doing that to my daughter or mother or anyone in my family makes my blood boil. I'd like to think that I'd hold the same objectivity if something like this affected me, but I'm not sure I would. My heart goes out to them.

With that said, I don't think the state should be sanctioning murder. It shouldn't even be an option to allow families to grieve in this way, no matter how badly they want it. I don't blame the family for not being rational in this moment, I blame the state...they are supposed to be the rational, objective ones.
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This is reminding me of the last chapter of Malcolm Gladwell's "David vs. Goliath" which I just finished. I'll let the NY Times review sum it up better than I can:

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Mr. Gladwell has a less Christmassy point to make with the stories of how differently two California families dealt with the murders of daughters. Mike Reynolds, the first victim’s father, helped drum up support for California’s three-strikes law, though Mr. Gladwell points out the law’s weaknesses. It has since been overturned.

Wilma Derksen and her husband, Canadian Mennonites whose daughter was hog tied and murdered, originally voiced a forgiving desire to know the killer. But then the man was apprehended, and Ms. Derksen could not bear the details she learned at his trial.

Perhaps Ms. Derksen might have exploited her daughter’s fate, or otherwise made herself a strong counterpoint to Mr. Reynolds. But she showed courage in choosing not to. She had the strength to walk away, and Mr. Gladwell takes her story no further.
It's much harder to forgive than to stay in anger, but I believe it is also much more freeing in the long run.
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Rape and murder of a pregnant woman? I don't care if he gasped in agony for 10 days.

Had it been my wife or daughter though, he'd have gotten two to the head. No arrest, no trial, no death row.
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fuck the mother fucker.

maybe they should have got big dick dick with 12 inch dick to rape him and kill him.?
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Had it been my wife or daughter though, he'd have gotten two to the head. No arrest, no trial, no death row.
....the only tragedy here is this scumbag got to burden taxpayers for an extra 20 years.
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fuck the mother fucker.

maybe they should have got big dick dick with 12 inch dick to rape him and kill him.?
what if he's a power bottom like jon ?
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....the only tragedy here is this scumbag got to burden taxpayers for an extra 20 years.
It costs more for prisoners to be on death row than it does for them to be imprisoned for life. How's that for taxpayer burden?

Simple fact is, every now and then, the state is going to get it wrong, and put innocent people to death. Is it worth the gamble for your revenge?
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It costs more for prisoners to be on death row than it does for them to be imprisoned for life. How's that for taxpayer burden?

Simple fact is, every now and then, the state is going to get it wrong, and put innocent people to death. Is it worth the gamble for your revenge?
thats a real head scratcher isn't it ? how is it possible, that feeding , sheltering , clothing , and providing medical care for someone , for say 50 years, cost less than , giving them a few shots and a burial ? are they flying to the fucking moon to retrieve the substance they use for the execution ? are they burying them in solid gold caskets ?
50 years ago i might have agreed on the basis that someone may actually be innocent. i'd be a bit pessimistic of executing someone on eye witness testimony alone. todays DNA technology removes any doubt in a lot of cases.
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