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Old 12-12-2013, 03:10 PM   #1
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Default Megyn Kelly Fox News - Jesus & Santa Are White - Deal With It

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On Wednesday, Fox News host Megyn Kelly led a brief discussion about this Slate piece in which Aisha Harris, a black woman, explains how cruddy the omnipresent white Santa Claus made her feel as a kid. Kelly had two points she wanted to introduce as fact, to clear up any confusion for all the kids who may be watching her 9 p.m. news analysis show.

No. 1: Santa is white. "By the way, for you kids watching at home, Santa just is white. But this person is arguing that maybe we should also have a black Santa. But you know, Santa is what he is, and just so you know, we're just debating this because someone wrote about it, kids." Actually, Harris was arguing Santa should be a penguin, since he's already an amalgam of characters.

No. 2: Jesus is also white: "Just because it makes you feel uncomfortable doesn't mean it has to change. You know, I mean, Jesus was a white man too. But you know it's like we have — He was a historical figure, I mean that's a verifiable fact — as is Santa, I just want the kids watching to know that."


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Old 12-12-2013, 03:42 PM   #2
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Default Re: Megyn Kelly Fox News - Jesus & Santa Are White - Deal With It

The media race baiting again.

Heres the article.

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When I was a kid, I knew two different Santa Clauses. The first had a fat belly, rosy cheeks, a long white beard, and skin as pink as bubble gum. He was omnipresent, visiting my pre-school and the local mall, visible in all of my favorite Christmas specials.

Then there was the Santa in my family’s household, in the form of ornaments, cards, and holiday figurines. A near-carbon copy of the first one—big belly, rosy cheeks, long white beard: check, check, check. But his skin was as dark as mine.

Seeing two different Santas was bewildering. Eventually I asked my father what Santa really looked like. Was he brown, like us? Or was he really a white guy?

My father replied that Santa was every color. Whatever house he visited, jolly old St. Nicholas magically turned into the likeness of the family that lived there.

In hindsight, I see this explanation as the great Hollywood spec script it really is. (Just picture the past-their-prime actors who could share the role. Robert De Niro! Eddie Murphy! Jackie Chan! I smell a camp classic.) But at the time, I didn’t buy it. I remember feeling slightly ashamed that our black Santa wasn’t the “real thing.” Because when you’re a kid and you’re inundated with the imagery of a pale seasonal visitor—and you notice that even some black families decorate their houses with white Santas—you’re likely to accept the consensus view, despite your parents’ noble intentions.

Two decades later, America is less and less white, but a melanin-deficient Santa remains the default in commercials, mall casting calls, and movies. Isn’t it time that our image of Santa better serve all the children he delights each Christmas?

Yes, it is. And so I propose that America abandon Santa-as-fat-old-white-man and create a new symbol of Christmas cheer. From here on out, Santa Claus should be a penguin.

That’s right: a penguin.

Why, you ask? For one thing, making Santa Claus an animal rather than an old white male could spare millions of nonwhite kids the insecurity and shame that I remember from childhood. Whether you celebrate the holiday or not, Santa is one of the first iconic figures foisted upon you: He exists as an incredibly powerful image in the imaginations of children across the country (and beyond, of course). That this genial, jolly man can only be seen as white—and consequently, that a Santa of any other hue is merely a “joke” or a chance to trudge out racist stereotypes—helps perpetuate the whole “white-as-default” notion endemic to American culture (and, of course, not just American culture).

Plus, people love penguins. There are blogs dedicated entirely to their cuteness. They’re box office gold. Most importantly, they’re never scary (in contrast to, say, polar bears and reindeer). Most kids love Santa—because he brings them presents. But human Santa can be terrifying—or at least unsettling.

And, with a penguin Santa, much Christmas folklore can remain unchanged. Being a penguin, Santa Claus can still reside in a snowy homeland—though for scientific accuracy we’ll need to move him from the North Pole to the South. He can still rock a fake white beard and red suit if he chooses. Since penguins can’t fly, Rudolph and his fellow reindeer will remain a crucial element to getting the job done on Christmas Eve. You may have even spotted a penguin here and there already among the holiday books and Christmas kitsch.

Will kids have a harder time believing in Santa the Penguin—aka Penguin Claus—than in the fat white guy he’s replacing? I don’t think so. Kids are used to walking, talking bears and gigantic friendly birds. A penguin delivering gifts might even seem more feasible to them, since cartoons have primed them to consider such creatures fairly run of the mill.

Of course, since we created Santa, we can certainly change him however we’d like—and we have, many times over. Like the holiday itself, Santa has long since been extracted from his religious roots, even if the name St. Nicholas still gets thrown around. Our current design takes inspiration from multiple sources, including Washington Irving’s 1809 description of St. Nick “riding jollily among the tree tops, or over the roofs of the houses, now and then drawing forth magnificent presents from his breeches pockets, and dropping them down the chimnies of his favourites.” When Clement Clarke Moore published “A Visit from St. Nicholas” in 1823, the old man was described and illustrated as a “plump” but elfin figure. Since then, Santa has been redesigned and re-appropriated to push everything from soda to war.

So let’s ditch Santa the old white man altogether, and embrace Penguin Claus—who will join the Easter Bunny in the pantheon of friendly, secular visitors from the animal kingdom who come to us as the representatives of ostensibly religious holidays. It’s time to hand over the reins to those deer and let the universally beloved waddling bird warm the hearts of children everywhere, regardless of the color of their skin.
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Default Re: Megyn Kelly Fox News - Jesus & Santa Are White - Deal With It

Strange, figured they'd want Santa to be Black which would explain him giving away stuff for free like a Socialist.

Takes me back to the Black Jesus episode of Good Times.
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Default Re: Megyn Kelly Fox News - Jesus & Santa Are White - Deal With It

If you want to get multi-cultural, we could always go with the Dutch Sinterklaas and his helper Zwarte Piet:



I see nothing wrong with this.
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Default Re: Megyn Kelly Fox News - Jesus & Santa Are White - Deal With It

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The media race baiting again.

Heres the article.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/h...christmas.html
So it is race baiting for a non-white person to contend she was disheartened as a kid that a fictional character who brought her presents Christmas morning had to be white but not race baiting to insist that fictional character obviously is white and, while she is at it, do a head-on confrontation with reality by contending that a historical non-European from 2000 years ago is "white" as well

Got it

As anything other than Kelly pandering to the demographic that tunes into Fox News her statements are nonsensical
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So it is race baiting for a non-white person to contend she was disheartened as a kid that a fictional character who brought her presents Christmas morning had to be white but not race baiting to insist that fictional character obviously is white and, while she is at it, do a head-on confrontation with reality by contending that a historical non-European from 2000 years ago is "white" as well

Got it

As anything other than Kelly pandering to the demographic that tunes into Fox News her statements are nonsensical
No it's not race baiting to question it. But when the media uses it to stir the shit it is.

As far as pandering shall we start posting what msnbc has to say on the subject of race or what they consider racist?
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No it's not race baiting to question it. But when the media uses it to stir the shit it is.
So we agree that Kelly should have let it rest

I apologize for misinterpreting your earlier post
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So we agree that Kelly should have let it rest

I apologize for misinterpreting your earlier post
Yep it's not that big of deal. Cept I'm not sure about the santa penguin.
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Strange, figured they'd want Santa to be Black which would explain him giving away stuff for free like a Socialist.

Takes me back to the Black Jesus episode of Good Times.

Anyways...
Jesus was a dark skinned Jew. Incredibly tanned.

Does anyone know why fox news Hates all non whites so bad?
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Does anyone know why fox news Hates all non whites so bad?
Non whites don't watch Fox News
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