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Old 01-23-2014, 10:35 AM   #11
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FWIW a political candidate saying the President of the U.S. should be hung seems to me a bit more newsworthy than a political aide going after another political aide
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Are you saying the Secret Service should have investigated Brauer?

Or are you saying that the liberal media did not cover what Brauer said?

Sacramento Democratic Party Leader Resigns After Tweeting Death Wish For Republican Staffer’s Kids

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/...staffers-kids/

If you would have left it at the right and left having their share of nut cases I would have agreed with you.

But you couldn't resist claiming this is all part of the liberal media only covering right wing nut jobs - so I noted GOP Presidents getting threats also gets coverage from the so-called LameStream Media

FWIW a political candidate saying the President of the U.S. should be hung seems to me a bit more newsworthy than a political aide going after another political aide

Maybe you can find a Dem candidate saying W should have been executed, although that would seem to undermine your point about those sorts of threats not being covered

It is both sides as I said.

Are you saying the media isn't biased?

Political candidate or not where was all your outrage when the same threats were aimed at bush.


Wishing death on someones children is just as bad if not worse no matter who you are.
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Wishing death on someones children is just as bad if not worse no matter who you are.
Yep.

I'm a pretty level-headed person. And, alas, even I've been threatened... but, I didn't think twice about it.

That said, I have become the Hulk when someone has said something snide about my kid. It was visceral; I didn't think, I just reacted... badly. Ergo, if they were to have threatened my child... holy crap... it would have been Chernobyl meets Nagasaki, with a healthy heaping of the guns of Navarone.

So, Yes... threatening someone's kids is far worse than a threat against that person.
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Disagreeing with someones politics somehow equates to you wanting them and their children to die? Jesus.
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It is both sides as I said.

Are you saying the media isn't biased?

Political candidate or not where was all your outrage when the same threats were aimed at bush.

Wishing death on someones children is just as bad if not worse no matter who you are.
I agree that wishing death on someone's children is morally abhorrent but in terms of being "worse" it depends on what you mean by "worse" - if I say I hope your kids die I am an awful human being and if you respond by punching me in the face no jury will convict you of battery. But it is not a crime.

OTOH if you threaten to kill the Prez you are guilty of the following federal felony

Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

18 USC 871


So in terms of what sends me to jail threatening the Prez is worse. From a moral standpoint children are off limits to disdain for anyone and threats against kids and other family members are worse IMO. Michael Corleone sums it up at the start of this clip



Senator Pat Geary: I despise your masquerade, the dishonest way you pose yourself. You and your whole fucking family.

Michael Corleone: We're both part of the same hypocrisy, senator, but never think it applies to my family.


With regard to media bias, most of the news media is biased but not necessarily for the Kenyan Socialist's agenda (the most popular cable "news" network is a propaganda arm of the GOP and the most popular talk radio show is as well). So in terms of the monolithic news media being a liberal cabal that suppresses any news unfavorable to Big Government that is incorrect.

Which gets back to our initial exchange. You posted

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It only makes headlines if it's a not a liberal making the threats.
I responded by three examples of threats to W that made headlines.

So I guess I will ask you whether you really contend death threats to the President only make headlines when they are made against a Dem Prez

In closing, with regard to my lack of outrage at death threats made to Bush, please step down off the soapbox to the extent you contend I am only outraged about death threats directed at Obama. If I posted every time someone made a death threat to Obama I would definitely increase my post count. To the extent you contend I should have posted about a Dem candidate saying W should be executed, I am unaware of any such threats. Maybe I should spend more time reading breitbart.com

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