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Old 05-21-2014, 12:25 AM   #581
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Do you think Big Ben could influence coaches decision on how much to play Bryant?

@ScottBrown_ESPN: His comfort level with Martavis Bryant will certainly be a factor in how much the rookie plays in 2014. Ben Roethlisberger has to develop trust in his new wide receiver and the confidence that he is on the same page with them. The fact Roethlisberger called Bryant 10 minutes after the Steelers drafted the Clemson product shows how excited he is to add a tall, fast wide receiver to the offense. And wide receivers coach Richard Mann has talked about the benefits of a having a tall wide receiver when inside the opponents’ 20-yard line. Certainly there is an opportunity for Bryant to carve out a role as a rookie, but he will have to earn it. And the best way to do that is to earn the trust of his quarterback.

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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter: May 20

And one more WR on an expiring contract: Baltimore's Torrey Smith. Some WRs will be re-signed but no way all will.

More WRs in last year of their deal: Demaryius Thomas, Reggie Wayne, Jeremy Maclin, Hakeem Nicks. Makes 2015 an all-time WR free-agent class

WRs scheduled to be free agents after this season include: Dez Bryant, Michael Crabtree, Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Roddy White, Wes Welker

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Derek Moye hoping to use height in a more productive way

May 31, 2014



Derek Moye pulls in a pass at Steelers practice Wednesday on the South Side.

Two minutes remained in the first half of the game against the Cincinnati Bengals Sept. 16, 2013 when Steelers wide receiver Derek Moye snagged his first NFL touchdown pass, a 1-yard rainbow in the back of the end zone from quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

The touchdown tied the score, 10-10, but the Steelers eventually lost, 20-10, as they slogged toward a disappointing 8-8 record.

Moye played in seven games in 2013. This year, he is hoping he can beat out some new receivers and retain a job.

"To be honest, it doesn't really matter who else is on the roster," Moye said earlier this week amid organized team activities (OTAs) at the South Side training facility. "I've got to play well, and, if I don't, no matter who or who isn't on the roster, I won't be here."

At the end of 2013, Moye, at 6 feet 5, was the only receiver on the roster taller than 6-1. Now, he finds himself looking up -- on the depth chart.

After losing receivers Emmanuel Sanders and Jerricho Cotchery in free agency, free agents Darrius Heyward-Bey and Lance Moore as well as fourth-round draft pick Martavis Bryant were brought in to help offset the departures and improve an offense that ranked 20th in the league in yards per game.

Moye, a Rochester Area High School graduate, recently traveled to Newport Beach, Calif., with Roethlisberger and receivers Markus Wheaton and Justin Brown to train and improve route-running and timing.

"Moye is getting so good," Steelers running back Le'Veon Bell said. "Even last year, I saw him getting better and better each and every week. I'm excited to see Moye, too. He's a bigger receiver, a tall receiver.

"He can go up and get it and he can run. I'm definitely excited to see him."

Though Bryant, a 6-4 receiver from Clemson, has been mentioned as a potential starter this season, Moye still will be given the chance to earn a roster spot despite the lack of production in 2013.

He was active for seven games, caught two passes and was targeted only six times. He also dropped a Roethlisberger pass in end zone Oct. 20 against the Baltimore Ravens, a game the Steelers eventually won.

Moye's career at Penn State was distinguished enough to get him a look in the NFL. He finished his Penn State career as the school's third all-time receiving yards leader (2,395). He had eight touchdowns and 885 receiving yards as a junior.

Originally signed as an undrafted free agent by Miami in May 2012, Moye ended up on the Steelers practice squad by the end of that season. He made the Steelers 53-man roster out of training camp last year.

Moye, listed at 210 pounds, said he has added about 4 pounds since last spring. He said being in the Steelers system for a year has made it a lot easier and, when hearing a play in the huddle, he can execute his route instead of thinking about it.

"Last year, when I played well in the preseason and I got a few chances in the season, I showed it wasn't just a fluke," he said. "I'm looking forward to gaining from the performances of last year and carry them into this season and, hopefully, getting a shot to play a bigger role with this team."

Even though Antonio Brown is the only returning receiver who took a significant number of snaps last season, Moye said he has worked with special-teams coordinator Danny Smith in a bid to enhance his value and chances of making the team.

"Martavis, he has the size and speed, but, you know, I feel like I have the size and speed and the ability to go up and get the ball, as well," Moye said.

"Really, I think I'm a pretty complete receiver. I'm just going to try and carry it over to the field."

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Tall, young wide receivers catching on with Steelers

August 5, 2014
By Ed Bouchette / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Through 1½ weeks of training camp, not even GoogleMaps can decipher the routes Steelers wide receivers will take from here through the depth chart to open the regular season.

They will start out on Antonio Brown Boulevard, but, after that it’s a map with different directions. Lance Moore in the slot? Probably, but young Justin Brown might have a say in altering that assumed plan. Markus Wheaton as the No. 2 man on the outside? Maybe, but rookie Martavis Bryant has a month to change their minds there too.

Bryant and Brown were given more opportunities Monday not only to show their coaches what they can do, but also to get playing time with Ben Roethlisberger and start building some rapport with the veteran quarterback.

Bryant’s coaches told him Monday morning he would take his first snaps with Roethlisberger.

“I feel good about it,” Bryant said before practice. “I just want to go out and execute and make sure I know what I’m doing. They want to see how much I know so I just have to go out there and make sure I do my best, try not to stress so much, just have some fun.”

He did not get many, but the five snaps he had were five more than he had in training camp previously with Roethlisberger.

Brown, in the meantime, practiced as the No. 1 slot man ahead of Moore. He took most of his snaps with Roethlisberger at quarterback as the competition heats up between him and the veteran receiver acquired this year in free agency.

Bryant and Justin Brown have several things going for them as they compete with others to get that pecking order down after Antonio Brown. They are young, they are tall and they have practiced well.

Other than 6-foot-5 Derek Moye, Bryant (6-4) and Justin Brown (6-3) are the tallest wide receivers in camp. Being tall does not lead a receiver to the front of the pack as Limas Sweed once found out, but it helps if other things come together.

Bryant, for example, had some dazzling catches over the weekend, so he earned those reps Monday with Roethlisberger.

“It’s come down to knowing my job, knowing my assignments, which I do know mostly everything,” Bryant said. “They want to make sure I’m 100 percent confident in what I’m doing and get the trust of Ben and the coaches that they can trust me in the game.”

Justin Brown was the “tall” receiver of the 2013 draft class as a sixth-round choice. He spent his rookie season on the practice squad after Moye, his former Penn State teammate, beat him out for the fifth and final wide receiver roster spot.

They are competing again to make the roster, and Brown has made an early impression. He made another impression in a way in which he wishes he might not have last week. His nose was broken when his helmet crashed into it while blocking Thursday. He missed practice Friday to have surgery on his nose but was back in full drills Saturday.

“I don’t want to waste any opportunities or waste any practices,” Brown said. “I figured I should try to come back as fast as possible.”

Brown played in the slot at Penn State (where Moye played on the outside) but after he transferred to Oklahoma for the 2012 season, he played strictly on the outside. They have moved him around in practices, but the Steelers want to see him as a slot receiver, where the 5-9 Moore also resides. There’s room for both Moore and Justin Brown inside when the Steelers deploy four wide receivers, but they do not do that nearly as often as when they go to three.

“Going to Oklahoma, I was outside the whole time and kind of lost a little bit of it,” Brown said of playing the slot. “Now I’m working my way back into it, so I’m getting more comfortable with it.”

There’s more to playing in the slot than on the outside. There is more traffic, more bodies, more reads, etc.

“You never know who you’re going to run your route off, it could be a back, it could be the safety, it could be the nickel back, you never know,” Brown said.

It also helps that the quarterback can see you more readily when you stand 6-3. Right now, 6-5 Heath Miller and other tight ends are the only tall inside targets.

It also helps that Brown and Bryant are familiar with the no-huddle offense, having played in them at Oklahoma and Clemson.

“There’s not much difference,” Bryant said. “It’s more relaxed and calm here compared to college because in college we had to go faster than this, so this is nothing new.”

Yet for Roethlisbeger and the Steelers, both wide receivers are new, and they’re making their play for more prominent jobs.

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Posted Aug 12, 2014

Coach Mike Tomlin reviews Tuesday's practice:

How was Martavis Bryant’s performance in practice today after having a shaky first preseason game?

"He made a couple plays today but we know he’s capable of that. I’m looking for him to grow in all areas and have the type of detail in his work where we can rely upon him. Like a lot of young guys he’s moving toward that. (He’s) not at a quick enough pace for us (and) not at a quick enough pace for him, so we’ll continue to work..."

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How was Martavis Bryant’s performance in practice today after having a shaky first preseason game?

"He made a couple plays today but we know he’s capable of that. I’m looking for him to grow in all areas and have the type of detail in his work where we can rely upon him. Like a lot of young guys he’s moving toward that. (He’s) not at a quick enough pace for us (and) not at a quick enough pace for him, so we’ll continue to work..."

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He was a chronic dropper in college...his only glory was because the other receivers were double teamed. He is a wasted pick.
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He was a chronic dropper in college...his only glory was because the other receivers were double teamed. He is a wasted pick.
I wouldn't call him a wasted pick just yet, but he was a chronic dropper in college and it was alarming that he didn't produce more in that Clemson offense with his physical tools and the talent around him.

I wouldn't mind seeing him in most redzone packages after the reports of how "unstoppable" he is in camp but for this year I don't think he should see the field much outside of that.
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This made me laugh. Gotta suck to hear that.
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Bryant will be just fine...
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