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Old 03-03-2014, 08:15 PM   #71
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I don't think anyone can hate the move.

Without worilds next year we are looking at jarvis/Woodley/carter......jarvis still is a unknown at this point needs to get stronger (I do believe he will be fine but still) Woodley I don't think we can count on him anymore which is a shame and Carter is nothing more than a special teamer,

Worilds yes can still be labeled as unknown but he outplayed all our outside linebackers last season and that to me is a good reason to keep him around. He's is differently. A different player when on the left.
Exactly. I think Jones will be a special player with some added strength and technique development, and some time on the field. But, Worilds seems like the most reliable OLB we have right now.

Carter in my opinion needs to be gone. Sylvester looked better at OLB than him, and I would bet Garvin would be much better as well.

True, unfortunately we can't count on Woodley. He's had too many years in a row now with injuries. He's a beast when he's healthy though.
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:18 PM   #72
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Very surpised, i don't know where the Steelers got the money for this move. They MUST cut Levi Brown at this point otherwise the only team with a worse cap will be the Cowboys. LaMarr Woodley and Ike Taylor's tenures could be ending soon
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:31 PM   #73
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It will not be hard to get under the cap. Cut Levi Brown, Ike Taylor, and Woodley June 1, all of which are moves that were already expected, and we're good to go. Not to mention now we have Worilds on the books as well included in that number, which was an unknown before.
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When you take into account not only this season, but the prior three and failure to be effective on the right side, it could be righting a prior wrong.

I'm rooting for him. I'd never root against any player on this team, but I'm worried about Worilds and whether or not 2013 was a flash in the pan. I hope not, but he really needs to register elite pass rushing numbers and develop his containment, as well as improve upon his ability to seal the edge in the run game.

Maybe as @harrisonsamonster said, the 9.75 was to buy a year and see whether or not he can be a 10+ sack, reliable edge rusher for this team. If not, locking him up would be Woodley all over again.
C'mon, SC. You can't really believe that the front office of the Pittsburgh Steelers is throwing that kind of money at Worilds purely to save some type of face? They are a much more savvy organization than that.

As I stated before, this gives them more time to evaluate his worth and get their house in order. It isn't killing them in the long run right now. Woodley is just as much of a question mark, but with a heftier price tag, recurring calf issues, and older. I'd rather take a chance on somebody who showed a little promise than a guy that keeps proving unreliable, uncommitted, and overpaid.

The bottom line is that the Steelers have bought themselves some time, flexibility, and are allowing the market to dictate Worilds' worth without committing prematurely to a long-term deal first. That's not a bad thing.
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I really doubt that Worilds will be playing on this tag next year. He will be getting some type of long term deal this offseason from us or someone else, I think that much can be guaranteed. There just isnt a reason for Worilds to NOT sign a long term deal. Just something to keep in mind.
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It will not be hard to get under the cap. Cut Levi Brown, Ike Taylor, and Woodley June 1, all of which are moves that were already expected, and we're good to go. Not to mention now we have Worilds on the books as well included in that number, which was an unknown before.
The Steelers have a March 11 deadline to meet

This lengthy article was written before the transition tag was applied to Worilds

On March 11, the Pittsburgh Steelers—and every other NFL team for that matter—must be in compliance with the Rule of 51. According to Over the Cap, the rule stats that “only the top 51 cap charges (plus dead money) count towards a teams salary cap.”..

When about $1.352 million of unused cap space that will roll over to 2014 is included into these figures, the Steelers sit at just over $5.9 million above the 2014 salary-cap figure of $133 million.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...to-free-agency

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http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/cap-hit/

Trib-Review discusses impact of putting transition tag on Worilds

The transition tag will cost the Steelers $9.754 million against the Rule of 51 salary cap number that each team much meet by the start of the NFL's new year on March 11. The franchise tag would've cost the Steelers $11.455 million

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/...#ixzz2uxEam7zO

By my arithmetic the Steelers have to shed $15.6 million by cuts or restructuring after the transition tag was put on Worilds.

Levi Brown takes care of $6.25 million - need to get rid of over $9 million more
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The Steelers have a March 11 deadline to meet

This lengthy article was written before the transition tag was applied to Worilds

On March 11, the Pittsburgh Steelers—and every other NFL team for that matter—must be in compliance with the Rule of 51. According to Over the Cap, the rule stats that “only the top 51 cap charges (plus dead money) count towards a teams salary cap.”..

When about $1.352 million of unused cap space that will roll over to 2014 is included into these figures, the Steelers sit at just over $5.9 million above the 2014 salary-cap figure of $133 million.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...to-free-agency

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http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/cap-hit/

Trib-Review discusses impact of putting transition tag on Worilds

The transition tag will cost the Steelers $9.754 million against the Rule of 51 salary cap number that each team much meet by the start of the NFL's new year on March 11. The franchise tag would've cost the Steelers $11.455 million

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/...#ixzz2uxEam7zO

By my arithmetic the Steelers have to shed $15.6 million by cuts or restructuring after the transition tag was put on Worilds.

Levi Brown takes care of $6.25 million - need to get rid of over $9 million more
Also need to factor in Heath's contract. That should be a good 2-4 million.
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Brown will restructure as well.
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With signing bonus wouldn't Byrd be a bigger cap hit than $11 million in 2014?
Probably... but, I'm not sure.

He was offered $9 million per year (the tag for safeties is $8.4 million) Using an educated guess, I'd say that he wants right around $11 million per year.

But, even if he wants as much as $12 million, it would only be $2.25 million more than Worilds. And, Byrd is easy better than a mere "$2.25 million more than Worilds."

Think about it this way, using two totally different players:
Let's say that the Chargers are about to lose Ryan Mathews to free agency. Mathews has been often injured, and only really produced for the last half of the past season. Now, for whatever reason, Megatron is available... for only $2.25 million more than Mathews.

Who do you sign?

One is an often injured player who "could" be top ten at his position... and the other is easily one of the two best at his respective position.

If Worilds signs with another team, so be it.
If he signs for $6.5 million per year, so be it.
If he plays one year, and then leaves, so be it.

BUT, if he signs a multi-year deal worth $8 million (or more) per season... ugh. That much money would have been far better served on a proven player: Byrd.
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Also need to factor in Heath's contract. That should be a good 2-4 million.
Agreed - I bet Troy will agree to take a cut - question is if they can get there without releasing Taylor or just decide to cut him - they are stuck with Woodley's number
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