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Old 03-06-2014, 10:54 AM   #11
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Can you blame China, when we do bullshit like this?
A great talent of the Chinese government is in maintaining a straight face while deploring conduct that is official policy in China

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My favorite joke on China fits this thread.

People say, "The Chinese are so wise they have one word for 'crisis' and 'opportunity'." Yes, but they also have one word for 'China' and 'Tibet' and it's 'China', so fuck them.
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Then we shall call them on their shit. It doesn't absolve either of us of our crimes.

That said, if you have a link to that article with a better resolution, I would like to see it. I can't read the text in the image.
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Doesn't say "illegal" either. But what do you think they are?
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Doesn't say "illegal" either. But what do you think they are?
Children in general.

Are you saying people that own farms don't let their children work on the farms and only employee illegal migrant child labor.
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A great talent of the US government is in maintaining a straight face while deploring conduct that is A SECRET policy in the US

here's the difference....
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This is what we've become and I for one don't like it one bit.


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New Jersey Governor Chris Christie has appropriately been called a bully. This has implications well beyond Christie. His calling out has the potential to shift the growing public conversation about bullying from a pyschological narrative about abusive individuals to a new discourse on institutionalized bullying, carried out by ruling institutions and elites.
The current focus on bullying - like much of the discussion about guns and gun violence - has tended to focus on individuals and mental health. It is a therapeutic narrative. Bullying is seen primarily as a psychological problem of individuals. The victim needs therapy, better communication or adaptation skills. Bullies are characterologically flawed and need therapy or perhaps legal punishment.

But there is little or no discussion of larger social or cultural forces in the United States and the American institutions or leaders who bully other countries or workers and citizens at home. Institutionalized bullying is endemic to a capitalist hegemonic nation like the United States and creates death and suffering on a far greater scale than personal, everyday bullying, as important and toxic as the latter might be.
Moreover, much of the everyday bullying that is the current media focus must be understood as the inevitable consequence of a militarized corporate system that requires a popular mind-set of bullying to produce profit and power. The individual bully is the creation of the bully nation.

The United States openly views itself as the world police force, a benign hegemon morally ordained to impose its interests and values on the rest of the world and justified in the name of freedom, human rights and antiterrorism to do to weaker countries what it wants. It spends more on weapons than its next 20 largest competitors combined. President Obama proclaimed "[S]o long as I'm Commander-in-Chief, we will sustain the strongest military the world has ever known." To peasants living in small countries in Latin America, the Middle East, Africa and Southeast Asia - where the United States has sent armed forces, used drones to bomb, and often overthrown the government - polls show that a majority of people see the United States as the greatest threat to their security, and fear it. Hegemony here seamlessly unfolds as morally sanctioned, institutionalized bullying.

America makes heroes of bomber pilots like John McCain and offers them as role models for children and adolescents to emulate. They see the media applaud the bullying behavior of their own government that dispatches police, soldiers, FBI and CIA agents into foreign nations to kill and wreak havoc - from Afghanistan to Somalia to Columbia. If you kill enough, whether in a just war or not, you may win the Congressional Medal of Honor.
If bullying brings esteem to a nation, then surely that is a behavior to strive for. Potential recruits for an aggressive military need to be immunized against scruples over violence and bullying. This becomes an implicit part of their education, whether or not it is ever publicly admitted. Accordingly, schools and adult authorities often turn a blind eye toward bullying. After two world wars, the Army lamented that a majority of combat soldiers never fired a weapon. They called for a change in the training of soldiers and the education and upbringing of children to correct that. By that measure, they have been successful. In Vietnam, Iraq and Afganistan, the majority of combat soldiers killed.

Sports has played a vital part in preparing children for institutionalized aggression, bullying and combat. In football, the goal is to attack the opponent and knock them down, a hard hit that keeps the opponent dazed on the ground is sometimes encouraged by coaches and cheered by the crowd. In schools and campuses, the athletes are often the popular heroes and also the bullies, involved too often in sexual violence or drinking binges in bars that lead to fights or crimes.
Only recently would they expect sanctions against bullying. Indeed, the more they bullied, the more popular they would be. Even before World War I, President Theodore Roosevelt insisted that elite universities like Harvard would have to enhance their football teams if America were to dominate the world. He declared: "We cannot afford to turn out college men who shrink from physical effort or a little physical pain." For the nation needed men with "the courage that will fight valiantly against the foes of the soul and the foes of the body."

The aggression and competiveness of bullying pervades civilian life as well as military. As the beacon for the rest of the world to emulate, the culture the United States wishes to export is capitalism. Capitalism's staunchest defenders proclaim competition to be its fundamental operating principle. The monopolistic corporations and the wealthiest 1% have been the most aggressive, bullying anyone who stood in their way by outsourcing their jobs, lowering wages, stripping away benefits and firing those seeking to organize unions.
The bully demonizes their victim. In American capitalism, elites have long defined the losers in the competitive struggle with the words used by Mitt Romney to defame the 47%: undeserving "moochers." They are weak and lazy and don't have the stuff to prevail. As victims, they deserve their fate and must submit to the triumphant. Those, like the wolves on Wall Street who bully their way to the top, should be there; those who couldn't or don't, belong where they are.

Bullying is the means through which the corporate empires were built. Carnegie and Rockefeller intimidated and threatened their rival capitalists to cede them an ever-larger share of the market. They brought in Pinkerton goons to beat striking workers into submission. Workers were forced to either sign "yellow dog" contracts and pledge not to join unions, or be thrown into the street. Similar bullying practices continue today. Corporations warn entire communites they will shut down factories and undermine the local economy if they do not accept low wages and minimal regulations. Banks entice consumers to borrow through predatory loans and then raise interest rates and threaten foreclosure. The corporations are clear they have the power and will not tolerate challenges from weaklings who fail to know their place.

Bullying enhances the ideology that the strong are strong and the weak are weak, and each deserves to be where they are. This attitude pervades America's culture, government, military, corporations, media, schools, entertainment, athletics and everyday life. The first step to a solution is shifting the conversation to institutional bullying, moving beyond simply a therapeutic narrative to a political one aiming toward transformative social change. As long as the United States embraces militarism and aggressive capitalism, systemic bullying and all its impacts - abroad and at home - will persist as a major crisis.


http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/ite...9-bully-nation
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Then we shall call them on their shit. It doesn't absolve either of us of our crimes.

That said, if you have a link to that article with a better resolution, I would like to see it. I can't read the text in the image.
I think you know I am no knee jerk apologist for the misdeeds of the U.S. government - but the Chinese government throwing crap with its record on just about everything other than economic growth is hard for me to take seriously

China Daily is the English language agitprop newspaper published by the Chinese government. Some of the headlines are laugh out loud funny.


http://www.theatlantic.com/technolog...wspaper/26830/

This is a link to the column that allows you to increase the size and resolution of some of its greatest hits.

The NYT and WSJ have their places in the firmament, but my favorite newspaper will always be the China Daily. State-controlled, English-language, always touchingly earnest in its surface demeanor but often with a different message underneath


http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...a-daily/36864/

It is distributed in Washington as an insert with The Washington Post for the presumed purpose of reaching America's despotic ruling class

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...updated/67189/
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I think you know I am no knee jerk apologist for the misdeeds of the U.S. government - but the Chinese government throwing crap with its record on just about everything other than economic growth is hard for me to take seriously
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dan i think your confused... the chinese aren't in denial.. their point to this is to point out the hypocrisy coming out of DC. basically they're saying clean up your own house instead of worrying about mine.
kinda like kerry and his retarded rant about russia making up excuses to invade a sovereign country.
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Children in general.

Are you saying people that own farms don't let their children work on the farms and only employee illegal migrant child labor.
No, I'm saying family farm and Junior milking a cow before school isn't what the report is talking about.
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No, I'm saying family farm and Junior milking a cow before school isn't what the report is talking about.
It's not specifically pointing out illegal migrant worker either.


I never learned how to milk cows.
Driving age in this state use to be 14. Why? So kids could drive during harvest.
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