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Old 04-16-2014, 05:42 PM   #1
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Ex-Sheriff Wanted 'Women In Front' In Case Of Shootout With Feds
The Huffington Post | by David Moye

A former Arizona sheriff who supported a Nevada rancher in his land dispute with the federal government says he would have put women in the frontline if officers started shooting.

An armed standoff between Cliven Bundy and the U.S. Bureau of Land Management over grazing rights ended with the federal government abandoning its plans on Saturday to impound Bundy's cows that roamed public lands.

Richard Mack, a Bundy supporter who served as sheriff of Graham County, Ariz., between 1988-1997, told Fox News on Monday about a planned strategy if "rogue federal agents" had opened fire.

“We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front,” he said on Fox News, according to TheBlaze.com. “If they are going to start shooting, it’s going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers.”

Mack was one of nearly 1,000 people, many of them armed, who showed up and supported Bundy's battle with the BLM.

The BLM contends that the Bundys have used federally managed public lands for their cattle and have refused to pay the appropriate grazing fees for the past 20 years. The family allegedly owes more than $1 million.

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I'm all for fighting government injustice and oppression, but intentionally martyring your women to further your cause sounds about as cowardly as it gets. You mother would be ashamed, Mr. Mack.
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Your mother would be ashamed, Mr. Mack.
She wouldn't have been if the federal agents started shooting.
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I want my free use of federal land. Or else.

I'll be right here, behind Mindy and Annette
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I want my free use of federal land. Or else.

I'll be right here, behind Mindy and Annette
Moral of the story - Government giveaway programs need to stop unless it is a government giveaway program that benefits me

This outlaw has been fighting to keep his free grazing rights on public land since 1993

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Yay Bundy! Civil disobedience! I'm going to march right down to the courthouse and DEMAND my $12 archery permit fee back. I have a Constitutional right to those city park targets!
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Yay Bundy! Civil disobedience! I'm going to march right down to the courthouse and DEMAND my $12 archery permit fee back. I have a Constitutional right to those city park targets!
Maybe you should just not buy one. Then the government can show up with a swat team to collect the fees.




I don't think the question is whether or not the cows were on public land, obviously they were. It's the heavy handiness of the government thats in question.

Wouldn't it be easier to file a couple of papers and take a lien out for fees in question. Instead of showing up with a small army and snipers for no other reason than intimidation. I'm sure the BLM has a few cowboys capable of riding horses and rounding up cows, push the cows back to private property and send them the bill for rounding up his cows.
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Maybe you should just not buy one. Then the government can show up with a swat team to collect the fees.




I don't think the question is whether or not the cows were on public land, obviously they were. It's the heavy handiness of the government thats in question.

Wouldn't it be easier to file a couple of papers and take a lien out for fees in question. Instead of showing up with a small army and snipers for no other reason than intimidation. I'm sure the BLM has a few cowboys capable of riding horses and rounding up cows, push the cows back to private property and send them the bill for rounding up his cows.
You think this was the first effort to collect?
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I don't think the question is whether or not the cows were on public land, obviously they were. It's the heavy handiness of the government thats in question.

Wouldn't it be easier to file a couple of papers and take a lien out for fees in question. Instead of showing up with a small army and snipers for no other reason than intimidation. I'm sure the BLM has a few cowboys capable of riding horses and rounding up cows, push the cows back to private property and send them the bill for rounding up his cows.
As Vis states, the chronology to which I linked walks through what the feds have been doing prior to their latest actions

April 1995: The fight between the Bureau of Land Management and the ranchers who want to use the federal land without fees or oversight is growing more tense, according to a story published in USA Today.

Thursday evening, a small bomb went off in the U.S. Forest Service office in Carson City, Nev....

1998: A federal judge issues a permanent injunction against Bundy, ordering him to remove his cattle from the federal lands. He lost an appeal to the San Francisco 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. He represented himself...

March 2002: Cliff Gardner is sentenced to a month in a Reno halfway house, along with a $5,000 fine and a year of probation. He has been under house arrest for the three previous months for not taking his cattle off of federal land. When his sentence — which affirmed the U.S. Forest Service's authority over the disputed land — was announced, more than 50 states' rights protesters were in the courtroom with him.

Three were dressed in white wigs as American Revolutionary War patriots and another wearing a wig and red coat said he was England's King George. "Has the West been won, or has the fight just begun?" read a banner at a rally outside the courthouse where 15 protesters on horseback carried signs while children waved the Nevada state flag. "This court has tried to intimidate the citizens of Nevada by attempting to make an example of Cliff Gardner," said Cliven Bundy, a Clark County rancher....

July 2009: The federal government is still fighting with local ranchers. They have signs posted all over the public land, stating that it is off-limits for grazing....

April 2012: The BLM plans to round up Bundy's cattle. After several threats, these plans are abandoned. ...

May 2012: BLM files a complaint in a federal Las Vegas court seeking an injunction against Bundy....

August 2013: A court order says Bundy has 45 days to remove his cattle from federal land.

October 2013: A federal district judge court tells Bundy not to “physically interfere with any seizure or impoundment operation.”...

March 15, 2014: After nearly 20 years, the Bureau of Land Management sends Bundy a letter informing him that they plan to impound his "trespass cattle," which have been roaming on 90 miles of federal land. ...

April 5, 2014: After decades of trepidation, federal officials and cowboys start rounding up what they think are Cliven Bundy's hundreds of cows. The operation was going to cost $1 million, and reportedly last until May. BLM contends that Bundy owes $1 million in fees, and will also have to pay the round-up expenses. Bundy — who retorts that he only owes $300,000 in fees — says the city folk are only hurting themselves by taking his cows. He told a reporter from the Las Vegas Review Journal that there would be 500,000 fewer hamburgers per year after his cows were towed away


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I know Fox News and Drudge would be just as outraged if some black guy had been holed up in his government subsidized apartment for the last 20 years and refused to get out
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He told a reporter from the Las Vegas Review Journal that there would be 500,000 fewer hamburgers per year after his cows were towed away[/I]
I think most Americans could do without a few hundred thousand hamburgers per year
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