Veterans need to step up the leadership!!!!

moedap · 10-22-2006, 04:25 PM

I saw an article that was link from Steelersfever.com that said Hines Wards needs to step up on the leadership role. I didnt think much of it but I would have to say I agree. These mental mistakes that are leading to poor fundamentals cost the steelers 3 games. Hines Ward celebrating in the end zone with Washington and some of his drops are just unexcusable for a veteran.

Bill Cowher and staff should take some blame also. The lack of fundamentals is killing the teams chances of closing people out. And yes Atlanta should have been closed out after we went up 17-7.

2-4. Season may not be over but I sure as hell dont want to look at a game full of turnovers and stupid mistakes from this day forward.

Livinginthe past · 10-22-2006, 04:44 PM

Hines had a great day with the ball in hand, but I totally agree with your take on the TD celebration.

Sure, its a tough rule - maybe its an unfair rule but there aint no appealing the rule book - it was a very lame brained action by a guy who has a reputation for being a thinking mans player.

Washington will catch some heat for the false start, but young guys make mistakes - Hines has no such excuse.

I'd like to think Cowher roasts him.

NM

19ward86 · 10-22-2006, 05:41 PM

wow...i totally disagree with you. if you think ward and cowher need to step up then you arent a true steelers fan. they are the biggest leaders on this team, ward offers to take recievers under his wing. cowher is in the top 5 for best coaches of all time, our defense needs to step up as a team, last year our defense was dominant and this year we are just normal. once our D steps up we can get back into the playoffs.

plenewken · 10-22-2006, 05:41 PM

"Bill Cowher and staff should take some blame also"

I agree 100%. Didn't Bill Cowher declare a few weeks ago that penalties for excessive celebration will not happen again? Seems that it happened today too.

Plus why the heck did he ask Ben to take a knee at the end of the 1st half when we had the ball with 48 sec to go and 2 time-outs? 3 points would have won the game in regulation Bill.

Steelers · 10-22-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by plenewken

"Bill Cowher and staff should take some blame also"

Plus why the heck did he ask Ben to take a knee at the end of the 1st half when we had the ball with 48 sec to go and 2 time-outs? 3 points would have won the game in regulation Bill.

Forgot all about that. Didn't seem like such a big deal at the time. Ugh.....

Stilliz · 10-22-2006, 06:11 PM

I agree with everyone here , save one thing....... Cowher being top five coach all-time ???

Pepsi all over my monitor thank-you 19ward86- thanx alot!

HometownGal · 10-22-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by plenewken

"Bill Cowher and staff should take some blame also"

I agree 100%. Didn't Bill Cowher declare a few weeks ago that penalties for excessive celebration will not happen again? Seems that it happened today too.

Plus why the heck did he ask Ben to take a knee at the end of the 1st half when we had the ball with 48 sec to go and 2 time-outs? 3 points would have won the game in regulation Bill.

I think Cowher made the right call there, plenewken. They were on their own 23 with 47 secs left and you don't want to take a chance on a pick or a fumble deep in your own territory. With the banana fingers out there today, I really couldn't blame him for that decision. Besides - the Steelers were receiving to open up the second half and we took the 24-21 lead into the locker room at the half.

SteelCzar76 · 10-22-2006, 06:46 PM

The Coaches don't suit up and take the field. You turn the ball over as many times as we did and allow a glorified R/B to pick you apart passing. You LOSE. The penalty courtesy of Hines and Nate should have made no difference at all. The game should have been over for the Falcons by halftime.

"Hail Caesar,.....HAIL THE BLACK AND GOLD"

Stillers#1 · 10-22-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 19ward86

wow...i totally disagree with you. if you think ward and cowher need to step up then you arent a true steelers fan. they are the biggest leaders on this team, ward offers to take recievers under his wing. cowher is in the top 5 for best coaches of all time, our defense needs to step up as a team, last year our defense was dominant and this year we are just normal. once our D steps up we can get back into the playoffs.

I really don't think questioning our coach and our supposed leader makes us any less of a Steeler fan. I think as fans, we are supposed to hold someone accontable for the losses we have been piling up latley. Granted, the NFL is very talented from top to bottom, and we can't win the Lombardi every year, nor should we expect to, but we need to be able to say, "hey, Bill needs to step it up a little bit and get this team under control." It's our right, we chose this team, if we want to criticize someone, within reason, I see nothing wrong with it.

BigJen · 10-22-2006, 10:44 PM

I think the endzone dancing really looks ridiculous on the hilight reels after the team loses!

10-22-2006, 04:44 PM	#2
Livinginthe past Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Crushing the AFCE...annually Posts: 7,520 Member Number: 478 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Veterans need to step up the leadership!!!! Hines had a great day with the ball in hand, but I totally agree with your take on the TD celebration. Sure, its a tough rule - maybe its an unfair rule but there aint no appealing the rule book - it was a very lame brained action by a guy who has a reputation for being a thinking mans player. Washington will catch some heat for the false start, but young guys make mistakes - Hines has no such excuse. I'd like to think Cowher roasts him. NM __________________ They've been great for a while now, three Super Bowls' worth of great. But only this season have the New England Patriots become The Show, the must-see team of stars, pretty boys and reformed bad boys. Suddenly, the Patriots are not simply great; they're compelling, fascinating, appearing to be almighty and a touch lawless. The Patriots didn't bother with swagger to start this NFL season; they went straight to defiant. Either you're one of them or you're about to get crushed.

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plenewken Assistant Coach Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,474 Member Number: 3447 Thanks: 125 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Veterans need to step up the leadership!!!! "Bill Cowher and staff should take some blame also" I agree 100%. Didn't Bill Cowher declare a few weeks ago that penalties for excessive celebration will not happen again? Seems that it happened today too. Plus why the heck did he ask Ben to take a knee at the end of the 1st half when we had the ball with 48 sec to go and 2 time-outs? 3 points would have won the game in regulation Bill.

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SteelCzar76 Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,233 Gender: Male Member Number: 2498 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Veterans need to step up the leadership!!!! The Coaches don't suit up and take the field. You turn the ball over as many times as we did and allow a glorified R/B to pick you apart passing. You LOSE. The penalty courtesy of Hines and Nate should have made no difference at all. The game should have been over for the Falcons by halftime. "Hail Caesar,.....HAIL THE BLACK AND GOLD"

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10-22-2006, 04:25 PM	#1
moedap Starter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 400 Member Number: 2890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Veterans need to step up the leadership!!!! I saw an article that was link from Steelersfever.com that said Hines Wards needs to step up on the leadership role. I didnt think much of it but I would have to say I agree. These mental mistakes that are leading to poor fundamentals cost the steelers 3 games. Hines Ward celebrating in the end zone with Washington and some of his drops are just unexcusable for a veteran. Bill Cowher and staff should take some blame also. The lack of fundamentals is killing the teams chances of closing people out. And yes Atlanta should have been closed out after we went up 17-7. 2-4. Season may not be over but I sure as hell dont want to look at a game full of turnovers and stupid mistakes from this day forward.

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