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Old 12-05-2006, 01:15 PM   #1
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one question (no shit): do these 2 guys have some kind of internal competition about which one of theire STRUGGLING starting qbs will last the longest ???

I mean with # 1 & 2 backup qbs it must be something like this that keeps Grossmann and Ben in the game ???
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Old 12-05-2006, 02:01 PM   #2
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one question (no shit): do these 2 guys have some kind of internal competition about which one of theire STRUGGLING starting qbs will last the longest ???

I mean with # 1 & 2 backup qbs it must be something like this that keeps Grossmann and Ben in the game ???



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Old 12-05-2006, 02:17 PM   #3
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brind666, I find it hard to understand your constant bashing of Ben?
I do understand that he has had a tough time this year, but how can you pile it all on him?
There are at least 2 games that he should not have even played in (Cowhers decision).
The running game has not helped him at all.
The offensive line and receivers have not played well all year.
The play calling (abandoning the run) has been suspect all year.

Do you honestly believe that Batch should be the starter ahead of Ben?
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Old 12-05-2006, 02:25 PM   #4
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one question (no shit): do these 2 guys have some kind of internal competition about which one of theire STRUGGLING starting qbs will last the longest ???

I mean with # 1 & 2 backup qbs it must be something like this that keeps Grossmann and Ben in the game ???
Let's just say Ben's record over the last 3 years is somewhat more impressive than Grossman's and leave it at that.
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Old 12-05-2006, 02:38 PM   #5
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I have not heard this guy say one positive thing...ever
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:28 PM   #6
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Faceplant into a car windshield, emergency appendectomy, concussion on a cheap shot - all since June. What's Grossman's excuse?
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I don't blame a damn thing on Ben, but I think Cowher is just to hard headed to know when Ben needs a rest and Batch should come in. Cause we all know Ben will never say he isn't ready to play
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regarding ben, Cowher is one of the biggest idiots ever. stubborn...
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Ben should of never started until he was healthy. Bad coaching to start the season off with. With all the pounding Ben has had to go thru he has not had a clear shot to heal. Now Grossman no excuse.. Grossman should be kicking ass in a very weak division and very weak schedule. Come on give us a schedule like that.
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people who bash Ben... I wonder if you've been watching the games... Ever since he's been in the league, he's not played well when returning from injury... but that doesn't mean that you bench him... the only way to remove the cobwebs that develop from not playing is by playing... I agree only that he should not have played against Jacksonville... he was not healthy enough to play yet, and grabbed his abdomen several times while wincing in pain. But if you look at just his INTs, it's easy to say that he should be benched, but if you watch, many of those interceptions are tipped off of his own receiver's hands... all three in Cleveland could have been receptions, and two of them should have been. Plain and simple, when his line has played well for him, to keep him upright, and get Parker going, he's done very well... and the only coaching error Cowher has made this year regarding Ben has been playing him against Jacksonville...

It's gonna take more than one year in which every play that could have gone either way, has gone the way of our opponent's, for me to throw Cowher and Ben under the bus... and it dissappoints me to see so many "fans" doing so.
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