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Old 12-08-2006, 05:05 PM   #1
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Default It's Time to Sign Ben Long-Term

Our less than desirable season should allow us to lock up Big Ben on the cheap. Of course, the contract will need numerous off-season rules and safety clauses.

It's pretty ironic that thanks to one bad season, we could be looking at unprecedented success in the coming years by making Ben the guy.
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:16 PM   #2
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I agree - we need to lock Ben up long term while his price will still be halfway reasonable - his agent may not go for a deal during this coming offseason, though, for this very reason.
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Old 12-08-2006, 08:25 PM   #3
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Dream on if you think this season drives down Ben's asking price on his next contract.
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Yeah, I know - it's nice to dream, though.
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Old 12-08-2006, 08:40 PM   #5
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Default Re: It's Time to Sign Ben Long-Term

Ben deserves as much as the Rooney's can fork over......actually more than that.
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Here is what you all have to remember when it comes to Ben and a contract.

1. This is the Rooney's. They will not negotiate until the last year. Unless they need room. Period.

2. Ben watched Bettis the last two years... give up money so they may keep playing. He also saw two of his receivers leave because the team didn't have, or want to pay the money that was needed to keep them. After this year, Ben knows he needs the entire team to play well.

3. Ben will get a great contract, and should get one. However, don't be surprised if it doesn't break the bank. I think Ben and the rooney's are both smart enough to know the middle road will bring us many championships.
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Here is what you all have to remember when it comes to Ben and a contract.

1. This is the Rooney's. They will not negotiate until the last year. Unless they need room. Period.

2. Ben watched Bettis the last two years... give up money so they may keep playing. He also saw two of his receivers leave because the team didn't have, or want to pay the money that was needed to keep them. After this year, Ben knows he needs the entire team to play well.

3. Ben will get a great contract, and should get one. However, don't be surprised if it doesn't break the bank. I think Ben and the rooney's are both smart enough to know the middle road will bring us many championships.

LITP knows a lot more about this than me, but Tom Brady gave up $$$ so the Pats could sign other players to compete for championships, and the result is the Pats let Branch & Vinateri go and now are millions ($20 million this year LITP?) under the cap. So much for Brady's sacrifice going anywhere other than ownership's pocket.

If am a player or agent for a franchise QB, I would be very reluctant to give up $$$ based on a promise my cut will be paid out to other players at some indefinite point in the future.

The Ben/Steelers negotiations are not going to result in any major "hometown discount" for the Rooneys, who have a well deserved reputation for being tight with a dollar, with the ongoing example being that pig sty of a field they refuse to improve.
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LITP knows a lot more about this than me, but Tom Brady gave up $$$ so the Pats could sign other players to compete for championships, and the result is the Pats let Branch & Vinateri go and now are millions ($20 million this year LITP?) under the cap. So much for Brady's sacrifice going anywhere other than ownership's pocket.

If am a player or agent for a franchise QB, I would be very reluctant to give up $$$ based on a promise my cut will be paid out to other players at some indefinite point in the future.

The Ben/Steelers negotiations are not going to result in any major "hometown discount" for the Rooneys, who have a well deserved reputation for being tight with a dollar, with the ongoing example being that pig sty of a field they refuse to improve.
Not sure I agree with either the main point or the example. Ward did, Porter wants to, etc. came back to play for Pittsburgh BECAUSE of the Steeler organization. And yes, when they want to do that, they will take less money to play where they want.

On the field, well, when you allow the highschool, college, and NFL teams to play on the same field, what can you do? And the Steelers have had that field torn up and replanted a couple of times... but it didn't help.
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Not sure I agree with either the main point or the example. Ward did, Porter wants to, etc. came back to play for Pittsburgh BECAUSE of the Steeler organization. And yes, when they want to do that, they will take less money to play where they want.

On the field, well, when you allow the highschool, college, and NFL teams to play on the same field, what can you do? And the Steelers have had that field torn up and replanted a couple of times... but it didn't help.
I do not think Ward gave up that much in terms of what he would have brought on the open market (and gave it up after he was required to hold out by the ever so loyal Steelers organization) and Porter wants top 3 LB $$$, which the Steelers correctly will not pay him. It's a business - nothing wrong about that but the idea that in almost all cases either managements or the players are not out to maximize their respective bank balances is NFL Network propaganda.

As for the field, they could lay out the $$$ for Field Turf and refuse to do it , unlike other teams (New England and Cincy) that have given up trying to grow grass in hostile climates.
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I don't think the odds are good for their to be a 3 years left on contract signing. Remember, it's when the Steelers have a players with TWO years left on his contract they negotiate extentions.
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