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Old 12-13-2006, 11:07 AM   #1
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Default Dolphins "stealing" Brady's signals?

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NFL: Dolphins violated no rules vs. Pats
By Len Pasquarelli
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Without convening a Congressional hearing or hiring an independent counsel to investigate the incident, the NFL has ruled that the Miami Dolphins violated no league rules in the Tapegate affair associated with the team's 21-0 victory over the New England Patriots last Sunday.


The incident spawned considerable attention on Tuesday after Dolphins middle linebacker Zach Thomas suggested to the Palm Beach (Fla.) Post that the team "purchased" tapes of the New England offense that provided audio of Pats quarterback Tom Brady making audible and line-blocking calls.


Thomas strongly hinted that the tapes were critical in preparing for the game and provided the Dolphins inside information about the New England offensive audible system.


"I've never seen [Brady] so flustered," Thomas said.


The league's response? Pretty much a stifled yawn, since there is no rule prohibiting such film study.


"Reaction around the league office was, 'That's football,'" said AFC spokesman Steve Alic.


Even with the contentions of Thomas and other Miami defenders, there remains uncertainty over just what measures the Dolphins took in their surveillance of the New England offense. While players said the team "purchased" the tape, coach Nick Saban said his club simply watched TV replays of Brady in an attempt to decipher the calls.


One Miami defender said it is common practice to take a TV tape of a game and enhance the volume to try to hear the quarterback's signals. The so-called "coaching" tapes supplied by the league to teams do not include audio. Television tapes often capture a quarterback's calls at the line of scrimmage because of the parabolic microphones used on the sideline.


Despite the attention garnered by the story, most league observers dismissed the importance of whatever the Dolphins did and chose to attribute the shutout victory to superior execution.


The Dolphins limited the Patriots to 12 first downs and 189 yards and held Brady to 78 passing yards and a passer rating of 55.1 while sacking him four times.
its also been speculated that tom bradys cadence telegraphs a run vs. pass play. saban is backtracking from zachs story, and why would the dolphins give away "trade secrets" anyways? yesterday james hasty on sportscenter suggested this is dirty and has no place in the nfl. and he was a DB? so what do you think? dirty or part of the game?
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:26 AM   #2
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Default Re: Dolphins "stealing" Brady's signals?

Part of the game

Coughlin was notorious for signing players the Steelers had cut the week before the Jax game to pump them for information and it is said one reason Tampa Bay whacked the Raiders in the Super Bowl was that Oakland had not changed their terminology from when Gruden was the coach and that the Bucs knew everything that was coming.
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:35 AM   #3
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Coughlin was notorious for signing players the Steelers had cut the week before the Jax game to pump them for information and it is said one reason Tampa Bay whacked the Raiders in the Super Bowl was that Oakland had not changed their terminology from when Gruden was the coach and that the Bucs knew everything that was coming.
listening to clips in sirius from s. payton, d. brees, and karney (the fb who noone knew of until he scored 3 td's) show thats how the saints were able to roll over the cowboys. payton told carney in practice to be ready cause the cowboys dont "respect the flat" and he knew that play would be there. he also knew there tendencies when they go into cover 2 and to go deep (devry henderson). most breakdown i heard of that game says that the student clearly outcoached the master. the saints players were confident going into the game that they would have the cowboys number thanks to the insight their rookie coach had brought along (it was payton who discovered and worked with romo).
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Yeah, it couldn't be that Goldenboy's team simply got outplayed, could it?
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Run, Run, Pass isn't hard to defense.
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It's not cheating - with the technology avail today - teams could do this every game if they wanted to..
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Default Re: Dolphins "stealing" Brady's signals?

Its not like the Pats would ever take advantage like that. And I'm sure they have, just got beat at their own game.
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Default Re: Dolphins "stealing" Brady's signals?

pat kirwan was just telling a story when he was a scout for the jets in 1990 he actually would listen to the tv with a stethoscope to try and pick up some clues on dan marinos cadence. he figured out a few things and passed them on to kyle clifton. during the game clifton put those nuggets to use. one play he yelled out "audible! its a slant!"

marino yelled back "yes it is. but you never stopped it before"
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I'm suprised LITP didn't have a post on this thread..
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