Big Ben is on NFL Countdown

[Blitzburgh]

Originally Posted by stillers4me

yeah....take a good look at the other top QB's in the league....Manning, Rivers, Brady,......they all look puny next to Ben.

Get off the sauce ....

First off, when did you actually see these guys standing next to each other to make the comparison? ..... Secondly, do you even have any idea how big these guys are?


Peyton Manning 6'5" .... 230 lbs.

Phillip Rivers 6'5" ..... 230 lbs.

Tom Brady 6'4" .... 225 lbs.



See ... so BIG BEN really isn't that Big compared to others in his class in craft. It's all in the marketing ...

My origonal point being that Ben didn't carry the weight he had last year, nor the arm strength and it was evident in his performance. His arms are toothpicks and need some work. I'm not advocating that he become a body builder or anything extreme. He just needs a little more of the size and strength he had last season back.

[SteelersWoman]

Anyone happen to have a picture or a video clip of Ben's stint on ESPN?

[TackleMeBen]

I thought he did a great job, especially at the end when they sort of caught him off guard with the whisenhunt thing.. he looked a little shocked and didnt know what to say!

[Stillers#1]

Originally Posted by Blitzburgh

If Ben wants to impress me as a Steeler fan, he'll get his ass in the weight room and start putting some mass on that stick figure of his. Then he'll call up his WR's and start meeting with them to work things out.

I can give a damn what the man does on a studio set or a Fat Head commercial for that matter.

AGREED...his 240 lbs is more like 220 or 210 this year.

[Petesburgh66]

Originally Posted by stillers4me

Anybody else surprised when Ben said he talked to Donald Trump about once a week??????

Hmmm, Trump has a 24 year old daughter........

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by Stillers#1

AGREED...his 240 lbs is more like 220 or 210 this year.

Don't forget how he lost his weight this year.

He wanted to lose some weight, but the way he did it, it took from muscle instead of fat.

Hopefully, he puts away the motorcycle for a few years.

[Hines0wnz]

Originally Posted by Blitzburgh

Get off the sauce ....

First off, when did you actually see these guys standing next to each other to make the comparison? ..... Secondly, do you even have any idea how big these guys are?


Peyton Manning 6'5" .... 230 lbs.

Phillip Rivers 6'5" ..... 230 lbs.

Tom Brady 6'4" .... 225 lbs.



See ... so BIG BEN really isn't that Big compared to others in his class in craft. It's all in the marketing ...

My origonal point being that Ben didn't carry the weight he had last year, nor the arm strength and it was evident in his performance. His arms are toothpicks and need some work. I'm not advocating that he become a body builder or anything extreme. He just needs a little more of the size and strength he had last season back.

He was hitting the gym more than he had before by the end of the year. And said it was the strongest he felt so late in a football season. I think he will better physically and mentally next season. If he, Hines, Holmes and NW spend some time together in the offseason I dont expect to see defenses so tempted to let Ben throw so much after a few games. Burn'em Ben!!!

[OneForTheToe]

Strength was Ben's problem?

Wow, I must have been watching different games ... I saw Ben break tackles or bounce away from would be sackser on numerous occasions this year. If anything it was his throwing technique that was off badly this year. Even on those rare occasions when the line gave him time to throw, Ben's throwing motion seemed out-of-sink. I don't care how strong your arm is, if you never set your feet (or don't have time to) you don't throw strong accuarate passes.

[stillers4me]

Originally Posted by Petesburgh66

Hmmm, Trump has a 24 year old daughter........

Good point! Smart boy, our Ben!

[Blitzburgh]

Originally Posted by OneForTheToe

Strength was Ben's problem?

Wow, I must have been watching different games ... I saw Ben break tackles or bounce away from would be sackser on numerous occasions this year. If anything it was his throwing technique that was off badly this year. Even on those rare occasions when the line gave him time to throw, Ben's throwing motion seemed out-of-sink. I don't care how strong your arm is, if you never set your feet (or don't have time to) you don't throw strong accuarate passes.

Agreed, you were watching different games. Based on your perception of Ben 'shedding tackles" this year, perhaps it was the 2005 Year in Review highlights you were watching.

Here's the Ben I saw this year ...

a Ben afraid fo run when presented with the opportunity

a Ben that telegraphed many of his passes by watching only his primary target

a Ben that was extremely inaccurate in short to mid range passes

a Ben that couldn't shed tackles the way he did the year before as a result of being a lot lighter.

a Ben that liked to go long to a man blanketed in double or triple coverage (on a number of occassions mind you!) as a result of not reading the defense correctly.


do I need to go on?