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Old 02-07-2007, 01:11 PM   #1
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Default NFL Revenue Sharing

Revenue issue gets personal for NFL owners
Print This Story By DANIEL KAPLAN
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Published February 05, 2007 : Page 01
Revenue disparity, the issue that has bedeviled the NFL for several years, looks to become an even thornier matter in 2007.

With yesterday’s Super Bowl now in the rearview mirror, the NFL is faced with the continuing struggles of some of its teams to make ends meet, a pressing concern for a league based on competitive parity.


Teams like the Patriots want recipients to have to qualify for the extra revenue sharing by demonstrating they are trying to raise additional money on their own. Clubs like the Bills largely contend they should not be penalized by their relative small market size.

“Probably close to half the [32] clubs are feeling the same financial strain [as the Falcons],” said Atlanta team owner Arthur Blank last week, adding that his franchise suffered a cash-flow loss in the recently completed season. “It is not three or four clubs. … The difference between the third- and fourth-revenue quartile is humongous and just needs to be dealt with.”

A revenue-sharing committee is set to meet Wednesday to try to make progress on how to distribute subsidies to needy teams. Meanwhile, the arguments between high- and low-revenue teams are becoming increasingly personal and contentious, a notable shift for a sport that has long kept its disagreements discreet and in-house.

Responding to reported comments of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft saying late last month that the low-revenue Buffalo Bills should sell naming rights to their stadium, Buffalo owner Ralph Wilson said last week, “I appreciate Kraft’s suggestion. It recalls the oldest story of life: When you go to a poor guy, he will give you money. When you go to a rich guy, he will give you advice.”
The Bills play in Ralph Wilson Stadium.


Bills treasurer and CFO Jeff Littman added, “It appears that when Bob Kraft gets a subsidy from the league, he thinks it is an incentive, but when he is asked to pay his fair share of labor costs, he thinks of that as wealth transfer.

“The NFL borrowed $150 million from banks to subsidize the construction of Gillette Field for the Patriots,” Littman said. “We pay the banks back with a payment from our TV revenues and our visiting team’s share of club-seat premiums; they keep all the suite, advertising, naming-rights and other revenues. We get to pay the players’ share on that revenue.”
To be sure, that league loan is deducted from the salary cap, and one-third of the Patriots’ general-ticket revenue is shared with the other 31 clubs.
Said a Patriots spokesman, “The fact is that Gillette Stadium is a model for how the G3 [stadium-financing] program is a win-win for not only the team building the stadium, but also the 31 other teams. Gillette Stadium has been a net generator of cash to the other 31 teams.”

It’s this type of back and forth that will surely be played out when the revenue-sharing committee meets via conference call this week. Teams like the Patriots want recipients to have to qualify for the extra revenue sharing by demonstrating that they are trying to raise additional money on their own. Clubs like the Bills largely contend they should not be penalized by their relative small-market size.

Collectively, the eight-club group is known as the qualifier committee.

Much of the matter at hand stems from the collective-bargaining agreement the league cut last year, giving players a share of all revenue. As a result, for the first time, every local dollar counts toward the salary cap. That means that teams without fruitful stadiums are faced with steeper labor costs because the cap is being driven up by franchises in more bountiful venues.

The Falcons, for example, lost money in 2006 even though on paper they turned a profit because of the way player bonuses are accounted for, Blank said. At some point, teams that are spending a large percentage of their revenue on player costs need relief, he said.

Minnesota Vikings owner Zygi Wilf made a similar concession in April, but he declined to comment for this story. Wilson has said the Bills are losing money, as well.

This all comes as a startling development for a league that for so long has considered itself the gold standard in sports. For many years, the NFL’s national media money, which is evenly distributed among all the league’s teams, went a long way toward covering player costs. With the surge of local revenue driving up the cap, that is no longer the case.

“It is important we get this thing resolved sooner rather than later,” said Bill Prescott, senior vice president of the Jacksonville Jaguars, another club recognized as a low-revenue team. “By the time we get to the owners meeting in March, hopefully this will be resolved by then or go to an owners vote at that meeting.”

About half of the league’s more than $6 billion in revenue is shared equally, about 30 percent is shared unequally and the remainder is not shared. Before creating as part of the new labor deal a supplemental revenue-sharing pool of up to $900 million over six years, teams in need collectively received about $40 million annually.
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:18 PM   #2
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Im all for the smaller revenue teams remaining competitive, but it seems slightly ridiculous that franchises like the Bills can come cap in hand to teams like the Patriots for extra money, yet make no effort to generate extra money themselves.

I thought the comments attributed Ralph Wilson were facetious, making out that that 'rich men' like Robert Kraft only give advise - who does he think partly finances his team?

Its also amusing that the Bills play in Ralph Wilson Stadium - any chance we could be looking at an owner putting ego ahead of earning?
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:35 PM   #3
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Im all for the smaller revenue teams remaining competitive, but it seems slightly ridiculous that franchises like the Bills can come cap in hand to teams like the Patriots for extra money, yet make no effort to generate extra money themselves.

I thought the comments attributed Ralph Wilson were facetious, making out that that 'rich men' like Robert Kraft only give advise - who does he think partly finances his team?

Its also amusing that the Bills play in Ralph Wilson Stadium - any chance we could be looking at an owner putting ego ahead of earning?
Paul Brown Stadium. Bengals owner has kept his own naming rights while bitching about the lease he has with cincy. I think selling the naming rights is a smart buisness move. Instead of constantly bitching about how his team isnt making any money maybe mr wilson should do more to bring in revenue.
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whose gonna want to buy naming rights in cinci or buffalo?

Port-A-Jon stadium and Ti-D-Bowl field?
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whose gonna want to buy naming rights in cinci or buffalo?

Port-A-Jon stadium and Ti-D-Bowl field?
breaking news. Paul brown gives up his stadium naming rights to ky jelly. The new official sponsor of the bungles
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breaking news. Paul brown gives up his stadium naming rights to ky jelly. The new official sponsor of the bungles
How about Paul Brown(ing) Stadium?

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Or Zig Zags stadium
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The smaller market teams are looking to the NFL to bail them out - this was a huge controversy is AZ from the time the Cards moved there - they ended up passing a ballot measure to get their new stadium built and now they are ok - if that measure had failed, the Cards would have left AZ for sure - my biggest question is why do teams like the Pats get 150 million dollar loan from th NFL while teams like the Cards have to get massive tax hikes on hotel rooms - this has always perplexed me...being a season ticket holder for the Cards it was tough renewing every year knowing I was gonna bake like a potato the first three games of the season..now they sell out every game easily even though they still suck...
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And the rich get richer and the poor get poorer!

Naming rights or no naming rights, I think owners need to do some heavy thinking on how to keep their teams competitive without screwing the fans, AGAIN! Put your heads together, name the field if you want to keep the stadium name.

But don't bitch about how you can't make money when you are agreeing to outrageous contracts with your players and expecting the other 31 teams to bail you out.

But on the flip side, don't bitch about bailing out the other 31 teams when the agreement was made. If you didn't like then, you should have found a way to stop it from being passed - like maybe come up with your own plan!

As for the loans, it would be nice to know how the NFL does that type of business for a select few. I know the Steelers didn't get a loan? When was Gillette stadium built? When did the pansies start winning Super Bowls? Conspiracy anyone?

And how funny that the Russian President has a patriots SB ring too! It's all becoming clearer and clearer!!!
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whose gonna want to buy naming rights in cinci or buffalo?

Port-A-Jon stadium and Ti-D-Bowl field?
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