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Old 01-22-2007, 11:00 PM   #11
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Most fans aren't going to give the guy a chance, and you can pick your own reasons why. Steeler fans are not known for their patience.
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:04 PM   #12
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Most fans aren't going to give the guy a chance, and you can pick your own reasons why. Steeler fans are not known for their patience.
I don't know - I was pretty damn patient during the 26-year drought between SB wins. Not once did I ever think that Art Rooney and then Dan Rooney should ever "clean house" because we kept falling short. The "flush the current coaching staff if they don't win within 2 seasons" approach hasn't exactly worked for the Lions, Cardinals, and a boatload of other teams.

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Old 01-22-2007, 11:14 PM   #13
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I don't know - I was pretty damn patient during the 26-year drought between SB wins. Not once did I ever think that Art Rooney and then Dan Rooney should ever "clean house" because we kept falling short.
Well then you are in the minority, because I don't know how many times over the years I've heard fans calling for Cowher's head, for their to be wholesale changes with the team, and even for the Rooneys to sell the team. These fans are never happy, because they think it's some birthright to have a SB champion every single year, and God help the Steelers if they don't win it.
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:16 PM   #14
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Well then you are in the minority, because I don't know how many times over the years I've heard fans calling for Cowher's head, for their to be wholesale changes with the team, and even for the Rooneys to sell the team. These fans are never happy, because they think it's some birthright to have a SB champion every single year, and God help the Steelers if they don't win it.
Yeah, I know, but this attitude isn't exclusive to just Steelers fans. I live in Denver, and believe me, the majority of Broncos fans are EXACTLY the same way.
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:16 PM   #15
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I don't know about that, Tony - I like to think that Cowher did need a break from the grind. Coaches like Cowher who wear their emotions on their sleeves tend to not last very long as HCs - ten years is usually the max (see Madden, Vermeil, Ditka). We had Cowher for fifteen. On the other hand, "even-tempered" coaches like Landry and Belichick can stick around 30 years or longer.
well, i think we all could use a break from the grind. but a job is a job and we all got to do it. most arent as fortunate as cowher to leave an offer on the table. i think cowher was trying to find that "even tempered" balance to reach longevity in his career. it backfired and was seen as a lack of passion or effort.

i do think the time off will do him some good, both professionally and personally. i bet when he returns he will have the same passion but be a little more subdued as far as wearing it on his sleeve.

one thing i liked best was he knew how to yell and scream at the veterans and balance that with coaching and teaching the youngsters when they screwed up. im sure tomlin will be able to find that same sort of balance or the rooneys wouldve never hired him.
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Give him a chance. Cowher was a nobody too. Grimm was actually my choice, but I think the Rooneys have a better insight into the situation than I do.
I will give him a chance, but to say that because Cowher was a nobody also does'nt mean that Tomlin will have the same success.

Cowher had a much better resume then Tomlin.

Also never underestimate the power of coaching your favorite team.

You take the coaching tree that Cowher came from along with his resume and comming home to coach his favorite team is why I think that the Rooneys knew that they had a winner!


BTW, if Tomlin was so hot then why was'nt Miami, Arizona, Oakland and Atlanta interviewing him?

I will support him with all my might, but if he is not winning then we need to move on.
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I will give him a chance, but to say that because Cowher was a nobody also does'nt mean that Tomlin will have the same success.

Cowher had a much better resume then Tomlin.

Also never underestimate the power of coaching your favorite team.

You take the coaching tree that Cowher came from along with his resume and comming home to coach his favorite team is why I think that the Rooneys knew that they had a winner!


BTW, if Tomlin was so hot then why was'nt Miami, Arizona, Oakland and Atlanta interviewing him?

I will support him with all my might, but if he is not winning then we need to move on.
Miami did interview him.

I think the Cardinals wanted a coach who could work with Lienart and those weapons on offense.

Oakland wanted an offensive coach. The only defensive coach they have interviewed is their defensive coordinator.

Atlanta probably wanted an offensive coach to take advantage of Vick's running ability.
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I will give him a chance, but to say that because Cowher was a nobody also does'nt mean that Tomlin will have the same success.

Cowher had a much better resume then Tomlin.
With all due respect, I don't think I ever said that. I'm not willing to say he's gonna go down in flames because he's "a nobody," either.

When Cowher took the HC job for us in '92, he only had 3 years experience as a DC (after 4 years as ST, then secondary coach) under Schottenheimer in Cleveland (2 AFCCG appearances) and KC.

Currently, Tomlin has 5 years of experience with Tampa (winning a SB) as a DB coach and 1 year of experience as a DC in Minnesota.

How, exactly, was Cowher's resume so much better at the same point in his career?

Suffice it to say, I had the same doubts about Cowher in '92 as I have about Tomlin now. We'll begin finding out in August and I can't wait.
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Miami did interview him.
I think the Cardinals wanted a coach who could work with Lienart and those weapons on offense.

Oakland wanted an offensive coach. The only defensive coach they have interviewed is their defensive coordinator.

Atlanta probably wanted an offensive coach to take advantage of Vick's running ability.
Site your source on this? And if thats true did we get a reject that Miami did'nt want?
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