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Old 02-06-2007, 01:33 PM   #11
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Default Re: Peter King: Roethlisberger 11th Among Active Quarterbacks??????

I dont see the Carson "man-crush' going away too soon...The only good thing about all the problems that the Bengals are having is that it makes people forget that he has been 8-8 twice in the short period that he has been a starter

Ben will be back next year....but his play this year is the reason for his ranking...we just have to accept the fact that he will have to "prove" himself all over again.
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:46 PM   #12
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for me ben is in the top 10 but i don't know where, i know he's definitely not in top 5

manning (even though he barely won it all, he is still hands down the best qb in the league.)
brady (not the greatest, but he does everything good, and is clutch)
brees (brees has been consistent for the last several years, and just blew up this year, and it was no fluke year either)
mcnabb (when healthy)
palmer (he's really good, sure he's a bengal, but i'm not to bias so i can give him his due)


then i guess i'd put him somewhere after that, hasselback might be better right now, ummm, maybe rivers, but i'll wait to judge him till after next year, delhomme possibly, this year he sucked but he's pretty good

but ben is most definitely in the top ten

but i don't think favre is in top 15, maybe the old favre, but not this favre

romo, he was all hype at the beginning, he did good but fell off down the stretch of the season so as more teams get more tape on him the more he'll be exposed and the cowboys will be looking for a new qb
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:54 PM   #13
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for me ben is in the top 10 but i don't know where, i know he's definitely not in top 5

manning (even though he barely won it all, he is still hands down the best qb in the league.)
brady (not the greatest, but he does everything good, and is clutch)
brees (brees has been consistent for the last several years, and just blew up this year, and it was no fluke year either)
mcnabb (when healthy)
palmer (he's really good, sure he's a bengal, but i'm not to bias so i can give him his due)


then i guess i'd put him somewhere after that, hasselback might be better right now, ummm, maybe rivers, but i'll wait to judge him till after next year, delhomme possibly, this year he sucked but he's pretty good

but ben is most definitely in the top ten

but i don't think favre is in top 15, maybe the old favre, but not this favre

romo, he was all hype at the beginning, he did good but fell off down the stretch of the season so as more teams get more tape on him the more he'll be exposed and the cowboys will be looking for a new qb
I don't know - I think Romo is pretty decent - the Cowboys lost down the stretch because their defense sucked - they gave up 38 points to the freakin Lions! - you're right that teams defended him better after a few games, but I think he will be the starter in Dallas at least for the next couple of seasons...
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Default Re: Peter King: Roethlisberger 11th Among Active Quarterbacks??????

Yeah but how many of those guys on the list actually have "rings"?
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Default Re: Peter King: Roethlisberger 11th Among Active Quarterbacks??????

Tony Romo at #9?

That's all I needed to see to stop reading. Romo will be a one hit wonder in this league mark my words. Teams were already making him look bad once they had film on him.
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OK, I know Ben's numbers slipped last season, but too put him behind Favre?? Come on! I think King has a man-crush on Brett like Madden does!
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OK, I know Ben's numbers slipped last season, but too put him behind Favre?? Come on! I think King has a man-crush on Brett like Madden does!
Try the whole freakin NFL media establishment - tell me this - are you looking forward to the third Brett Favre farewell tour? I said it in another thread - this guy has had more farewell tours then Cher and Streisand put together - I'm sure we will be treated to a fourth one in 2008 also....
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Try the whole freakin NFL media establishment - tell me this - are you looking forward to the third Brett Favre farewell tour?
The minute he passes Marino's total yardage and TD pass records, Favre's history - I guarantee it.
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Default Re: Peter King: Roethlisberger 11th Among Active Quarterbacks??????

The QB play this year was just average! Manning and Brady are just great! They will always be considered in the top ten list of best ever. Brees had a wonderful year. Other than that, the rest had good games here and there. No consistency! Therefore, I would rank someone like Brett Farve who has a greater body of work.
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Default Re: Peter King: Roethlisberger 11th Among Active Quarterbacks??????

As stated above, if you base it on last season Ben is, at best, at the bottom of the top 10 QBs. If you assume last season was an aberration and go on his three seasons then he should get to the middle of the top 10. Based on the fact that Ben was still forcing passes into coverage in the last game of the season he needs to not only fully recover from his injuries but break some bad habits that have been caused by either the injuries or terrible pass blocking.

Romo ahead of Ben is a joke - Romo played well for about a month and then either got careless or the league had enough fiilm to figure him out. Given his short time in the league, Romo gets less benefit of the doubt with me for his drop off in performance.

As for the high ranking of Palmer, I still do not get it - sportswriters have been drooling over this guy since he was drafted. If you are talking about someone who can make all the throws in the skeleton drills or looks like a pro QB then Palmer is your man. But with all of his fumbles when being hit and sketchy pocket presence this year I think Palmer has at least as much need to fully recover from the psychological carryover from his injuries as Ben does.
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