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View Poll Results: Best QB in the AFC-N
Carson Palmer 8 21.62%
Ben Roethlisberger 26 70.27%
Steve McNair 3 8.11%
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Old 02-09-2007, 09:24 PM   #31
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Let's be glad we aren't discussing Akili Smith and Kyle Orton!
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bunglefans think akili smith is better because he was drafted higher and had more college recognition despite k. ortons win/loss record as a rookie.
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Carson has the better arm, but Ben doesn't have the fumbling problem when he gets hit. I don't think either is anywhere near Manning or Brady, and are prime examples of what I would like to see them both develop into. They both have plenty of room for improvement at this point, IMHO. At this point, I don't think either one is better than the other, honestly - Palmer has the better home run ball, but Ben is bigger, stronger, more mobile, and can make plays in a bigger variety of ways.

Couldn't of said it any better myself. All I know is, I'm happy with Ben R.
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Old 02-09-2007, 09:48 PM   #33
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Ok.. Lets be real about this now.. I have to know how much of a percentage of this site really does believe which quarterback has a brighter future as an individual. Which quarterback has the better skillset. Which quarterback is better.. Period...

I wont include a Browns quarterback, because who the hell knows who it will be anyway...

Talking about how many times the quarterbacks have had sex is irrelevant in this thread.. Or how many girlfriends he gets.. This is for people who have actual facts.. About the player themselves. And their ability in FOOTBALLThat means you should just shut up Tony lol

Gee, what would you expect on a Steelers board? What kind of percentage do you think you would get on Cinybungles.com, or at Ratbirdsnest.com?
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:21 PM   #34
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People can say all they want that Ben didn't have to carry the Steelers in his first two years. Thats true and I agree. But Ben still made plays when he had to and the Steelers don't even make the Super Bowl without Ben's play in the three play-off games before the Super Bowl. Just look Ben's playoff's performances were better then Peyton Manning's play-off performances this past play-offs. I'm not saying Ben is better then Peyton. Just saying Ben was huge for the Steelers in getting to the Super Bowl during the play-offs.

As for Carson Palmer he is one of the best QB's in the game. He has the skills and its not his fault the Bengals turd elements were big reasons why the Bengals didn't make the play-offs.

I say Carson is better right now but I think Ben has the potential to be better and one of the best QB's in the NFL. I thought that when Ben played in college and I'm sticking to that. Sorry Brian but I think both QB's are very good and its going to be fun watching both battle for years.
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Old 02-09-2007, 11:04 PM   #35
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Gotta go with Carson. I think if he was on the Steelers, they still would've won Superbowl XL.
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Gotta go with Carson. I think if he was on the Steelers, they still would've won Superbowl XL.
yeah me too. im sure charlie batch woulda filled in nicely as an injured carson sat on the bench.

how's carson done in his most recent games against the colts and broncos when he faced the most pressure in his career to make the playoffs?

*choke, choke*

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Gotta go with Carson. I think if he was on the Steelers, they still would've won Superbowl XL.
Maybe... maybe not. Ben had two three specific plays, one went for a touchdown, one put them within a couple yards of the endzone, and one was a touchdown that were all made with his feet.

Could Carson have done that? Especially if he was having a bad day? That is the point here. Ben can beat you with his legs when he needs to. No, he isn't, nor do we want him to be another Michael Vick. But he has the ability to run around behind the line and keep the play alive. He has the abilit to run 6 yards for teh first down, which he did to seal the SB.
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Most games in the NFL are decided by less than one score.

I don't think it means anything vis this discussion, I just thought you might find it interesting. I got the stat from a recent TMQ column discussing parity.

And something else; with football being almost the consummate team game among modern sports, the question becomes murkier. Give Palmer Hines Ward and two nobodies, and give Roethlisberger the Bengals guys; now who is best? If one guy plays behind a line that is a sieve, does that mean he isn't as good when all his throws are rushed?

You can't put them in an arena and let them fight it out like you could tennis players, or golfers. Really, who could say which is actually better? Let's be glad we aren't discussing Akili Smith and Kyle Orton!


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bunglefans think akili smith is better because he was drafted higher and had more college recognition despite k. ortons win/loss record as a rookie.
Lets try to keep the smack in smack tony.. :rules:

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Sorry Brian but I think both QB's are very good and its going to be fun watching both battle for years.
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yeah me too. im sure charlie batch woulda filled in nicely as an injured carson sat on the bench.

how's carson done in his most recent games against the colts and broncos when he faced the most pressure in his career to make the playoffs?

*choke, choke*

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the non homer in me probably says carson has the best overall skillset right now in terms of reading defenses, arm strength and accuracy.
now if we are talking situational (down by 6 with 2 minutes left in the 4th).. id say ben. mcnair is no longer in his prime. he used to be one of the best at this but not anymore. ben has led a good number of game winning or tying drives in the short time he has been here. hes got as much poise, if not more, than mcnair and palmer. i trust him to come in and get the job done when we need him most.
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