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Old 02-24-2007, 01:12 PM   #1
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Default Identify the Dead Weight

with an overhaul of our coaching staff, its obvious there is an eye towards the future, moreso than an eye towards the now. with this being the case, roster spots for players we can plug in or develop for the future is just about as important as cap space.

last year we saw plenty of wasted draft picks. was it because they were crappy players or because they may have been good but there was no room for them on the roster?

tomlin has said he believes in starters playing special teams. of course after our special teams debaucle in the 01 afcc game cowher said we would see more of this too. not only was our special teams ineffective last year, it was rather old

gardocki
morey
iwouma
(does any one see iwouma or morey as starter potential?)

kirschke
logan
(will they ever see any starting time?)

phillip
(is he gonna play center if okolbi gets hurt, or is it more effective to slide simmons over and use his back up?)

if we draft a cb, rb, or wr, either it will be a wasted pick or some of these players will have to go (consider- lee mays and players like that have been pretty much useless)

colclough
madison
haynes
davenport
wilson
washington
reid

i dont think the steelers problem has been evaluating talent. i think a problem has been retaining players who "know our [sometimes too complex] system" even though they may not have been the best talent.

with the streamlining of our "system" this may give us flexibility we have not seen. its possible any if not many of the names i mentioned could be gone.

so who is the dead weight that will never contribute and needs to go?
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Old 02-24-2007, 03:12 PM   #2
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colclough... stays as a cheap 4th corner. Also stays OFF special teams.

madison... color him gone

haynes... The price is right, so stays unless a rookie shows promise in camp.

davenport... Assuming we draft a replacement, he's gone unless he's willing to sign for less $ than Haynes.

wilson... Not as bad as some here seem to think. Pretty good for a 4th receiver. But he's paid more than a 4th receiver, so he's going bye bye.

washington... Keeper, as 3rd receiver.

reid... Assuming his injury is 100% healed, he's back. You can't call him a wasted draft pick after 1 injury filled year.
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Default Re: Identify the Dead Weight

Keep One: Haynes or Davenport (personally I would keep ND)
Keep: Washington, Reid or Morey, Colcough or Iwouma, and Philip

Everyone else mentioned: SEE YA!
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Default Re: Identify the Dead Weight

To me this is a 'no brainer',.......Coclough, Wilson, Madison are all dead weight and should be gone without question.
And though he's solid on special teams,....it may be time to make roster space by realeasing Logan.
Nate Washington (or even Reid) are also highly expendable if we are able to land a Player like maybe Jordan Kent (Oregon) or Jarrett Hicks (Texas tech) on the second day of the draft.

Are far as the others mentioned the only one i would give any serious consideration in regards to remaining a Steeler would be Verron.
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all ricardo colclough does is fumble punts...morey is a good special teamer...nate washington contributes...DESHEA TOWNSEND IS THE DEAD WEIGHT
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all ricardo colclough does is fumble punts...morey is a good special teamer...nate washington contributes...DESHEA TOWNSEND IS THE DEAD WEIGHT

I'd say Dshea is "dead weight" or what i'd call a liabilty only if he starts. (He could still prove of some value in special teams coverage and Dime packages)
If you think about it Morey (though i like him) would be more of a waste of roster space. In light of the fact that all he really brings to the table is his special teams ability.
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who is a better special teamer? morey or polamalu. if tomlin decides to start polamalu on ST instead of morey are we gonna waste the vet minimum salary and a roster spot to have morey sit on the bench as a #6 wr?

questions like this is the point of this thread. this is where we got to take our fan hats off and put on our coaching caps.

otherwise we can just sit back and wave these in every off season post:
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who is a better special teamer? morey or polamalu. if tomlin decides to start polamalu on ST instead of morey are we gonna waste the vet minimum salary and a roster spot to have morey sit on the bench as a #6 wr?
Also, do we really want one of our best players on the suicide squad?
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who is a better special teamer? morey or polamalu. if tomlin decides to start polamalu on ST instead of morey are we gonna waste the vet minimum salary and a roster spot to have morey sit on the bench as a #6 wr?

questions like this is the point of this thread. this is where we got to take our fan hats off and put on our coaching caps.

otherwise we can just sit back and wave these in every off season post:


Exactly. Though it could be viewed as 'risky' to play starters on special teams. It could also be regarded as very 'efficient'. I think Rod Woodson did very well in such a capacity in his prime here.
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Also, do we really want one of our best players on the suicide squad?
this is what tomlin has to figure out. look how great the bears STs were. look at some of the great returns vasher and hester had and you see urlacher out there laying out people with killer blocks.

so do we want to have great players out there with an excellent special teams? or do we want to waste roster spots on specialists, and cut players we could eventually develop into starters, so we can watch our 2nd stringers and reserves stink it up on ST's?

when the patriots ST's beat the steelers ST's for the right to go to the sb in 01, it was their starting #1 wr who had the greatest impact.
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