Why are we playing too conservative on offense this preseason?

Rush58 · 08-22-2005, 10:03 AM

I don't see the purpose of us running our backs to death when I most glaring weakness last season was our air attack, especially in the playoffs. These games do not count. Big Ben is a second year qb, not a 5 year vet. He should be getting plenty of throws during these exhibition games. That's just my opinion. What are your thoughts?

blairsummit · 08-22-2005, 10:34 AM

i dont really think we are playing that conservative. during the miami game, when the first team was in there, i think we passed a lot more than usual. but i was at the game and all pumped up and going crazy so that statement might not be all that "truthfull".

but also remember, this is bens second year, and ward only played a series or two. he has, pretty much, a new wide recieving core and second and third team running backs with him being that bettis only played a series or two. also a rookie t.e. also a new starting tackle and a guard thats back from being injured from last year. the offense just needs to get the timing down and "gel". we'll see the next preseason game as the third game is when the starters stay in the longest and it will be a really good test being against carolina. just my .02 cents.

pitt · 08-22-2005, 10:34 AM

I agree that Ben needs more throws. We already know our running game works and with who. Let the runners loosen up alittle then turn it over to the air game.

TasmanianTroy271 · 08-22-2005, 10:57 AM

Pittsburgh's always been a "run first" team. We know Ben can pass the ball. What we don't know is how solid our running game is. I think we're just trying to feel out Willie and Noah and see if they're worth keeping (that one's just for Noah now) on the 53 man roster. Pittsburgh will never be an air team, at least not until we get a new coach. Plus, we know who Ben's primarily gonna be passing to this season; Hines, El, and Wilson. What we need to look at now is whose gonna be our recieving team once theyre gone, IE Washington, Cobb, Gibson, Young, etc...

SteelProven · 08-22-2005, 01:23 PM

I would like to see more of a aerial attack, but I don't want anybody to get injured becuz of that. Running the ball keeps everybody healthy, well in most cases. I know Ben is a good QB it's just timing and continuity that needs to happen. With Redskins next it should be a good test against a good defense.

clevestinks · 08-22-2005, 01:32 PM

Maybe we are just putting on a front. Preseason , run, run , run. Then first game of the year, first play from scrimmage, Ben goes up top. Hits Cedric Wilson in stride . TD

Rush58 · 08-22-2005, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachCowhead

We know Ben can pass the ball. What we don't know is how solid our running game is.

I disagree. I think it's definitely the other way around. We were in the bottom half of the league in regards to passing yards and pass attempts. We really don't know if Big Ben can pass the ball to win us games if the running game gets shutdown. He was inconsistent in the second half of last season and hasn't shown much in preseason thus far. I just think this is the best opportunity to work on the passing game without it counting in the win/loss column.

TasmanianTroy271 · 08-22-2005, 01:44 PM

I meant at the start of the preseason. Willie Parker could have looked horrible, for all we knew, and Herron could have fumblitis. Now that they're established we might see more passing.

Da Boot · 08-22-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rush58

I disagree. I think it's definitely the other way around. We were in the bottom half of the league in regards to passing yards and pass attempts. We really don't know if Big Ben can pass the ball to win us games if the running game gets shutdown. He was inconsistent in the second half of last season and hasn't shown much in preseason thus far. I just think this is the best opportunity to work on the passing game without it counting in the win/loss column.

I agree. We havent seen anything from Wilson or Heath Miller. As far as the backups go,all we have been hearing about is Nate Washington and how good Walter Young looks in camp, yet all they practically do is hand the ball off to Noah Herron in the second half. Look, we all know this team is already 4 deep at running back. Yet we have no idea who the 4th and 5th WR are going to be and whether or not Randle El or Wilson will be the starter. So far they arent giving any of these guys a chance to do something.

ironcitychef · 08-23-2005, 07:17 AM

The defensive scoring has thrown a wrench in offense strategy. The first game we were calling plays regardless of defense packages.(no big formations against 8 in the box=stuffed run), and the Mia game was a turnover fest so I think we wanted to aviod that by throwing less. We saw what throwing got Freotte and the Fins.

08-22-2005, 10:03 AM	#1
Rush58 Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 532 Member Number: 516 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Why are we playing too conservative on offense this preseason? I don't see the purpose of us running our backs to death when I most glaring weakness last season was our air attack, especially in the playoffs. These games do not count. Big Ben is a second year qb, not a 5 year vet. He should be getting plenty of throws during these exhibition games. That's just my opinion. What are your thoughts?

08-22-2005, 10:34 AM	#2
blairsummit Water Boy Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greenville, Pa Posts: 48 Gender: Male Member Number: 557 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why are we playing too conservative on offense this preseason? i dont really think we are playing that conservative. during the miami game, when the first team was in there, i think we passed a lot more than usual. but i was at the game and all pumped up and going crazy so that statement might not be all that "truthfull". but also remember, this is bens second year, and ward only played a series or two. he has, pretty much, a new wide recieving core and second and third team running backs with him being that bettis only played a series or two. also a rookie t.e. also a new starting tackle and a guard thats back from being injured from last year. the offense just needs to get the timing down and "gel". we'll see the next preseason game as the third game is when the starters stay in the longest and it will be a really good test being against carolina. just my .02 cents. __________________ Here we STEELERS here we go!

08-22-2005, 10:34 AM	#3
pitt Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 596 Member Number: 474 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why are we playing too conservative on offense this preseason? I agree that Ben needs more throws. We already know our running game works and with who. Let the runners loosen up alittle then turn it over to the air game. __________________

08-22-2005, 10:57 AM	#4
TasmanianTroy271 Team Captain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pittsburgh (Ingram) Posts: 738 Gender: Male Member Number: 544 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why are we playing too conservative on offense this preseason? Pittsburgh's always been a "run first" team. We know Ben can pass the ball. What we don't know is how solid our running game is. I think we're just trying to feel out Willie and Noah and see if they're worth keeping (that one's just for Noah now) on the 53 man roster. Pittsburgh will never be an air team, at least not until we get a new coach. Plus, we know who Ben's primarily gonna be passing to this season; Hines, El, and Wilson. What we need to look at now is whose gonna be our recieving team once theyre gone, IE Washington, Cobb, Gibson, Young, etc... __________________ 82 Tackles, 8 Interceptions, 21 Passes Defensed, 1 TD

08-22-2005, 01:23 PM	#5
SteelProven Draft Prospect Join Date: May 2005 Location: Offut AFB, NE Posts: 146 Gender: Male Member Number: 394 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why are we playing too conservative on offense this preseason? I would like to see more of a aerial attack, but I don't want anybody to get injured becuz of that. Running the ball keeps everybody healthy, well in most cases. I know Ben is a good QB it's just timing and continuity that needs to happen. With Redskins next it should be a good test against a good defense.

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08-22-2005, 01:32 PM	#6
clevestinks Living Legend Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,326 Member Number: 302 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why are we playing too conservative on offense this preseason? Maybe we are just putting on a front. Preseason , run, run , run. Then first game of the year, first play from scrimmage, Ben goes up top. Hits Cedric Wilson in stride . TD __________________ [

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TasmanianTroy271 Team Captain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pittsburgh (Ingram) Posts: 738 Gender: Male Member Number: 544 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why are we playing too conservative on offense this preseason? I meant at the start of the preseason. Willie Parker could have looked horrible, for all we knew, and Herron could have fumblitis. Now that they're established we might see more passing. __________________ 82 Tackles, 8 Interceptions, 21 Passes Defensed, 1 TD

08-23-2005, 07:17 AM	#10
ironcitychef Assistant Coach Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,384 Gender: Male Member Number: 109 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why are we playing too conservative on offense this preseason? The defensive scoring has thrown a wrench in offense strategy. The first game we were calling plays regardless of defense packages.(no big formations against 8 in the box=stuffed run), and the Mia game was a turnover fest so I think we wanted to aviod that by throwing less. We saw what throwing got Freotte and the Fins. __________________

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