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Old 04-15-2007, 11:16 AM   #371
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Preach, don't worry, I know what you mean. It's a different understanding of the word. Since I don't have the larger context that you do, when I say "good" I mean what people generally mean; someone who tries to get along, who nets out with more positive than negative. When you say "good" you are speaking in absolutes. So in order for us to understand each other, we really do need this communication; you need to remind me of the difference in perspective and why it is there. Thanks.


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Now, getting beyond doctrinal issues, we must get to the heart of this thread, which is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, with the result being a devotion to Jesus Christ. It is also vital in the Christian walk. Without this, you find nothing more than going through the motions. You find dead churches.
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God bless you Mosca. I know many good non-christians, and some TERRIBLE (& still self righteous, judgmental and condescending) christians. I have gave gone to church most of my life and never really believed. I remember my dad would scream at us the entire way to church and the entire way home. Our neighbors would wave to him & he would ignore them because he didn't like them...great christian. For many it is a leap of faith in order to believe. I am too analytical. And I can honestly say I have done some terrible things in my life and most people are probably better people than me to this point. Then it hit me through the help of my wife & I realized that I didn't believe that anything as complex and amazing as we are could have randomly evolved from a single cell organism. Also, there is too much verifiable sources that support Jesus, his miracles, his death & resurrection to believe it wasn't true. Plus, if we evolved from apes, what happened to everything in between? It is real, do your homework. Jesus died for our sins so that we can have an opportunity for eternal life.
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Preach, don't worry, I know what you mean. It's a different understanding of the word. Since I don't have the larger context that you do, when I say "good" I mean what people generally mean; someone who tries to get along, who nets out with more positive than negative. When you say "good" you are speaking in absolutes. So in order for us to understand each other, we really do need this communication; you need to remind me of the difference in perspective and why it is there. Thanks.


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Hey Mosca... I understand what yo mean by good... and it that sense, I agree. there are lots of people who do good things.

And thank you for being honest in your how you discuss and debate in this... It is SO appreciated and refreshing!!
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Well, preacher and GB, we just killed this thread. lol
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