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Old 04-11-2007, 11:21 AM   #41
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The Pirates are REAL lucky this isn't the old NL Central of the past and everybody else is stinking right now. They're still tied for 1st Place. They play in a crappy division and they STILL can't get things going.

If there isn't one thing wrong, it's another about the Bucs. It's frustrating.
The only piece of optimism I can give right now is that they might actually have the best starting pitching in the division. I don't think there's any other team that has more than 1 or 2 starters that they know they can count on - the Pirates have 2 and maybe 3 if Gorzelanny keeps pitching the way he has in his first 2 starts. But it won't matter one bit if the team can't score runs, and eventually that will start to affect the starters, who'll feel as if they can't make any mistakes and end up doing exactly that.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:29 AM   #42
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Its kinda disappointing being 4-4 after a 3-0 start, but as said we're only 8 games in and if we can stay motivated, with how weak this division is this year this is our best chanch of being competitive.

After this year we'll probably lose a starter or two and be in the basement for another ten years unless the FO does something to get real, good, prime players.

I say if we Trade LaRoach to the Rays for Cantu, I'm sure he can convert to 1st base and he has good power. and we should try and pickup a good relief pitcher.
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:00 PM   #43
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It's kinda tough not to throw in the towel when you're seeing the same garbage baseball that we've seen over the past 14 seasons. It wears on you and gets to the point where it isn't even worth getting upset over it. Yes, I realize that we're only 8 games in, but these are the Pirates, and losing is what they do.

Don't take this the wrong way, but it sure must be nice to root for a real baseball team with a real chance of winning every season.
No offense taken at all. I completely see your point I lived through the 80s going to games in the Bronx and watching them fail.

I was just trying to let you guys know that from an outsiders perspective it doesnt look that bad yet.
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Its kinda disappointing being 4-4 after a 3-0 start, but as said we're only 8 games in and if we can stay motivated, with how weak this division is this year this is our best chanch of being competitive.

After this year we'll probably lose a starter or two and be in the basement for another ten years unless the FO does something to get real, good, prime players.

I say if we Trade LaRoach to the Rays for Cantu, I'm sure he can convert to 1st base and he has good power. and we should try and pickup a good relief pitcher.
I'm against doing anything with Tampa because of their highly questionable fron office. I wouldn't trust them to do a deal that has fair value.
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2 years ago I would have jumped all over Cantu but he doesnt seem to be the same player. Not as much hustle and too much hacking away at the plate. He used to be willing to take what was given to him. When he couldnt drive the ball he would slap it the other way which made him a tough out. Now he wants to pull everything. Real hard to do with a cutter in on your hands.
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Just as an FYI, Brad Eldred is in the starting lineup at first base today.
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2 years ago I would have jumped all over Cantu but he doesnt seem to be the same player. Not as much hustle and too much hacking away at the plate. He used to be willing to take what was given to him. When he couldnt drive the ball he would slap it the other way which made him a tough out. Now he wants to pull everything. Real hard to do with a cutter in on your hands.
In his defense, he missed around 50 games to an injury last year and was rushed back to soon, I think he's still a really good player and hes only 25 I think, so he has plenty of years left to play.
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I'm against doing anything with Tampa because of their highly questionable fron office. I wouldn't trust them to do a deal that has fair value.
When I lived down there all the trades they did where unfair to them selfs.
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Why is the X Man trying to steal with Eldred at the plate?
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tough loss for the bucs last night in extras
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