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Old 05-16-2007, 06:18 AM   #21
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Default Re: Jets gonna knock you out!

Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
Yawner or not, it still stands. If he is so great, why couldn't he win in Cleveland? He had talent.

I'm not really ripping on him. I agree that Cleveland was a bad franchise when he was there. Sometimes it just takes a change to bring out greatness. How many other coaches do you suppose could be very good if the right situation and players were to fall to them?

All I'm saying is that Belichik had the right situation fall to him... that doesn't necessarily mean he is the best coach out there.
I agree that coaches need to have other factos in their favor - they can't win without talent; what they do is maximise it.

One thing that is forgotten is that Belichick gave Cleveland a very rare taste of playoff football in his time there (we'll skip over who he beat... )

If you look at the curve his teams records were taking under his leadership it seems pretty clear that they were gradually becoming a better and better team.

1991 - 6-10
1992 - 7-9
1993 - 7-9
1994 - 11-5

Then we have Modell making his announcement that the team is moving out of Cleveland altogether and the franchise promptly falls apart.

1995 - 5-11

Its conjecture I know, but who's to say that if the Browns had remained in Cleveland in 1995 that they wouldn't have gone to the playofs again - its clear they were improving every year.

At the end of the day im glad it all worked out as it did.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:08 AM   #22
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Default Re: Jets gonna knock you out!

Ya i think this is basically just a waist of time
One thing to plan on when we play the jets dont start a brawl

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Default Re: Jets gonna knock you out!

ESPN "Outside the Lines" just had a special on the Jets boxing and also showed some other people who do unorthadox training.

Boxing provides physical benefits and "a better perspective (apparently) on life" about "getting up when you get knocked down." According to Atlas its about "concentrating, understanding, technique, and staying calm."

"Boxing brings light into the places where there's only darkness?" I didn't get that...

Mangini hopes that each guy will take away something different whether it be spending time with Atlas or the stories from the camp. As long as its something positive. "Anything to get them to the next level" Shaun Ellis said.

I dig it... Hey its voluntary minicamp, why not?
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Default Re: Jets gonna knock you out!

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Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Man That's funny. The sad part is that I knew right away what you were quoting.
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