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Old 05-23-2007, 11:43 AM   #1
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Default PFW's Top 50 Players

As is typical with these offseason rankings (player or team) they are mainly just for stimluating a little friendly debate.

http://nflblogs.profootballweekly.co...breakdown.html

A few players who seem like a bit of a reach at first glance...

42. Kellen Winslow
47 Mike Strahan

But , in general, it seems like a fairly decent list - can't think of many who should be on here who aren't.
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For such a "thoroughly compiled" list, it seems pretty subjective to me. #1 through #3 I completely agree with, then after that it seems pretty arbitrary. Carson Palmer at #4? 'Tis to laugh. Winslow making it onto the list at all while Alge Crumpler, Heath Miller AND Ben Watson were left off it entirely? Again, 'tis to laugh. I gotta give them props for at least not putting Vick on it.

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Old 05-23-2007, 12:42 PM   #3
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As is typical with these offseason rankings (player or team) they are mainly just for stimluating a little friendly debate.

http://nflblogs.profootballweekly.co...breakdown.html

A few players who seem like a bit of a reach at first glance...

42. Kellen Winslow
47 Mike Strahan

But , in general, it seems like a fairly decent list - can't think of many who should be on here who aren't.
I would argue that Parker should be there before Rudi Johnson.... Ogden is a Hall of Famer, but has not been a top 50 player for the last 2 years.... Lee Evans has only had one year of more than 850 yards, and that isnt even close to beating out Hines Ward.

They seem to not be consistant towards "body of work" vs "flash in the pan"
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:02 PM   #4
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For such a "thoroughly compiled" list, it seems pretty subjective to me. #1 through #3 I completely agree with, then after that it seems pretty arbitrary. Carson Palmer at #4? 'Tis to laugh. Winslow making it onto the list at all while Alge Crumpler, Heath Miller AND Ben Watson were left off it entirely? Again, 'tis to laugh. I gotta give them props for at least not putting Vick on it.


Yeah, i'd go along with most of your assessment.

Palmer is an excelllent pasing technician but appears to have a problem with turnovers when it really matters.

Yeah, I'd definitely have Crumpler ahead of Winslow too.
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I would argue that Parker should be there before Rudi Johnson.... Ogden is a Hall of Famer, but has not been a top 50 player for the last 2 years.... Lee Evans has only had one year of more than 850 yards, and that isnt even close to beating out Hines Ward.

They seem to not be consistant towards "body of work" vs "flash in the pan"
Yeah, i'd probably give Willie the edge at this time, bearing in mind Cincy has plenty of weapons in the pasing game to take the heat off him.

I have a feeling that these ratings are heavily biased toward last years achievements with one eye on what might happen this year, rather than taking the last 3-4 years into acount.
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All I had to see Soldier Boy on the list and I went no further with it. The left off Willie Parker, Hines Ward but have Soldier Boy. What piece of cow dung this list is.lol
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Yeah, i'd probably give Willie the edge at this time, bearing in mind Cincy has plenty of weapons in the pasing game to take the heat off him.

I have a feeling that these ratings are heavily biased toward last years achievements with one eye on what might happen this year, rather than taking the last 3-4 years into acount.
I think your right..but that doesnt explaing Ogden....Speed Rushers have beat him so bad over the last two years...you would have thought he stole something.
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This is really bad...

You are always going to have people disagree when you compile a list like this, but this is terrible...
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This is really bad...

You are always going to have people disagree when you compile a list like this, but this is terrible...
I thought the team-by-team breakdown was reasonable enough - I kinda ignored the 1-50 rankings.
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For such a "thoroughly compiled" list, it seems pretty subjective to me. #1 through #3 I completely agree with, then after that it seems pretty arbitrary. Carson Palmer at #4? 'Tis to laugh. Winslow making it onto the list at all while Alge Crumpler, Heath Miller AND Ben Watson were left off it entirely? Again, 'tis to laugh. I gotta give them props for at least not putting Vick on it.
Palmer at 4---he's not even the 4th best quarterback---certainly shouldn't be ahead of Drew Brees.

This can't make Alan Faneca happy---obviously he's not one of the top two guards in the league

Have I mentioned I have a love/hate relationship with these lists? I love to look at them, but I always hate the results.
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