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View Poll Results: Most Over-rated Running Back?
Dominic Rhodes 5 16.13%
Willis McGahee 4 12.90%
Michael Turner 3 9.68%
Edgerrin James 6 19.35%
Reggie Bush 3 9.68%
Jamal Lewis 8 25.81%
Thomas Jones 2 6.45%
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Old 05-27-2007, 05:56 AM   #1
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Default Most Over-rated Running Back

I think this one will be a little tougher to decide - maybe even tougher to get the right candidates.

WR are naturally diva's, QB's automatically get the hype when his team does well - but RB's tend to recieve credit for what they achieve.

Anyhow, i'll throw some names out there and see what comes back - remember you're voting for the guy who's media perception/salary far outweighs his actual achievements.
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:29 PM   #2
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Wow.. this is really hard.

McGahee has put up decent numbers, especially his campaign in 2004 where he had about 1300 yards and 13 Tds. I feel like McGahee is only hyped up by McGahee, so he really can't be overrated.

There is no way it can be Jamal Lewis. He gets hurt sometimes and apparently loves to "ski" as the kids say, but he has put up some monster numbers over the past few years when healthy.

Michael Turner has a career YPC of 5.8. Granted he isn't an every down back, but he's not expected to be. Everyone expects him to be the next big thing when he's never carried the ball more than 80 times in a season. When someone gives him some insane contract next year then he can be involved in this discussion.

Reggie Bush is going to be who everyone thinks he will be. As a pure running back, he may not be as amazing but as a receiving/RB option he's going to be great. He will put up stats that will rival Marshall Faulk when its all said and done.

While he's been in Chicago, Thomas Jones has been solid... I guess we'll see this season if he's the real deal.

That leaves two backs with interesting parallels...

Two former Colts...

This was hard because, right off the bat, I wanted to say Rhodes. It just seemed like a case of Super Bowl MVP big sign (I realize that Greaton Manning ( ) was the mvp, but Rhodes, in everyone who didn't count's eyes was the MVP), but Oakland handled signing Rhodes really well. He got about 7.5 over two years, I think. With 1 million signing and a base salary of 1.5 mil this year. According to FOXSports.com he was making close to 3 million last year with the Ponies. They also added language in his contract that would make him take a pay cut and keep the team from any sort of repercussions if his DUI went through.

I feel like Edge is, ultimately, a very solid running back. Part of his success in Indy was, as well as Rhodes, surely their dangerous pass attack and super efficient quarterback, but I feel like he can get it done in Arizona now that their situation is finally molding (and may not look too different than Indy's when its all said and done). Last year he threw his OLine under the bus, though, while he collected about 10 million dollars. Also, according to Rotowire.com
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Bottom line? This guy puts up good numbers. Even in Arizona where they have had trouble finding someone who does. At the end of the day, though, this guy sucks up mad cash, talks to the media about the play of his teammates, and comes and goes as he feels, it seems. Maybe I'm getting the wrong impression (Jeremy let me know what Arizonans think), but James got my vote.

P.S. Those two smilies look REALLY disturbing next to each other...
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Uhhh...Clinton Portis? I don't know...he's into that media thing...but he's actually good. So I don't know. =\
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Old 05-27-2007, 01:15 PM   #4
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I picked Bush. Not that I don't think he's going to be great, but that for right now he isn't all that. He's made some mental mistakes that bring him back down to human, IMO.

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Jamal Lewis without a doubt....Don't know why Thomas Jones is on the list?
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Jamal Lewis without a doubt....Don't know why Thomas Jones is on the list?
I put Jones on the list because he is regarded as one of the elite FA pick-ups of this off-season.

He has had two nice years behind a dominant Bears O-line, but he only averaging about 750 yards per year for his career and those two years remain the only times he has gone over 1000 yards.

I don't think he is a poor RB by any stretch, I just dont agree that he will contribute very much in NY.

By comparison, your selection Jamal Lewis has gone over 1000 yards in all but one year of his 6 year playing career and his average stands at 1300 yards per year (basically twice Thomas Jones output over a similar period) plus he has done it in the AFC.

Why did you pick Lewis?
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I put Jones on the list because he is regarded as one of the elite FA pick-ups of this off-season.

He has had two nice years behind a dominant Bears O-line, but he only averaging about 750 yards per year for his career and those two years remain the only times he has gone over 1000 yards.

I don't think he is a poor RB by any stretch, I just dont agree that he will contribute very much in NY.

By comparison, your selection Jamal Lewis has gone over 1000 yards in all but one year of his 6 year playing career and his average stands at 1300 yards per year (basically twice Thomas Jones output over a similar period) plus he has done it in the AFC.

Why did you pick Lewis?
Ok LITP I'm going by the last two years and its clear that Thomas Jones has been the better RB of the two....Where Lewis started his career strong he has been in the decline ever since his 2000 yard season in 2003. Dude the last two years Lewis has around 2000 yards and 12 TDs. Plus his yards per carry the last two years are 3.4 and 3.6. The Ravens offense line wasn't terrible either.

Look at Jones who has 2500 yards and 15 TDs. His yards per carry the last two years are 4.3 and 4.1. I on the other hand think he will be very good for the Jets this year.

In my opinion Jamal Lewis isn't a top notch RB anymore and now he is with the Browns. You talk about Jones not being much of a factor in New York. What about Lewis with the terrible Browns.? Yes they had a nice draft. But Joe Thomas is still a rookie and I think he will be a great LT but he still will have some growing pains. They did add Eric Steinback also in free agency so the Oline will be better overall this year for the Browns. But they still don't have the passing game to take the heat off Lewis.
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Ok LITP I'm going by the last two years and its clear that Thomas Jones has been the better RB of the two....Where Lewis started his career strong he has been in the decline ever since his 2000 yard season in 2003. Dude the last two years Lewis has around 2000 yards and 12 TDs. Plus his yards per carry the last two years are 3.4 and 3.6. The Ravens offense line wasn't terrible either.

Look at Jones who has 2500 yards and 15 TDs. His yards per carry the last two years are 4.3 and 4.1. I on the other hand think he will be very good for the Jets this year.

In my opinion Jamal Lewis isn't a top notch RB anymore and now he is with the Browns. You talk about Jones not being much of a factor in New York. What about Lewis with the terrible Browns.? Yes they had a nice draft. But Joe Thomas is still a rookie and I think he will be a great LT but he still will have some growing pains. They did add Eric Steinback also in free agency so the Oline will be better overall this year for the Browns. But they still don't have the passing game to take the heat off Lewis.
Hey thats cool - I like getting a little background on why people pick who they do.

Personally I haven't heard quite as much about how big an impact Lewis should have in the AFCN, but thats because my attentions are more focused on the AFCE.

I'll give you the fact that Jones has been better the last couple of years but im looking at how that translates to running behind an average Jets line and it doesn't appear promising.

As you say the Browns are a long way from being challengers for anything other than the 2008 1st draft pick and I have no idea who Lewis will go in that team.
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tough one there between jamal and edge.....i chose jamal based that edge had the worst offeseive line in the league in fron of him last year.......what about rudi johnson??? im always hearing his name among the elite and im never impressed
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tough one there between jamal and edge.....i chose jamal based that edge had the worst offeseive line in the league in fron of him last year.......what about rudi johnson??? im always hearing his name among the elite and im never impressed
I thought it might be a little unfair to put Rudi on there just because he is a Bengal.

He has rushed for an average of 1400 yards and 12 TD's in the last 3 years - thats pretty good going.
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