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Old 06-07-2007, 11:44 PM   #1
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Default Hopes Still High for Timmons; Woodley Shining

Hopes still high for injured No. 1 pick Timmons
But 2nd pick Woodley is shining in practice

Friday, June 08, 2007

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Five weeks after the Steelers flooded a team weakness by drafting outside linebackers with their first two picks, the news from the practice field is mixed.

Second-round draft choice LaMarr Woodley's development has been unprecedented for his position. On the other hand, Lawrence Timmons, the draft's flagship choice, has made no progress on the field.

Timmons, the 15th player chosen in the April 28 draft, took his usual position in shorts and his gold Steelers practice shirt on the sideline yesterday. A persistent groin injury that hit him in his first pro practice, May 11, has kept him from practicing. He tried once last week but quickly shut things down when he realized his injury was not healed.

He might try to test the waters again next week.

"We'll try to get him a couple of reps next week and see where he's at," said Keith Butler, who coaches the team's linebackers.

Timmons is the second consecutive first-round draft choice who will have missed virtually all of the team's spring practices. Wide receiver Santonio Holmes made only the weekend minicamp last year because by NFL rule he was not permitted to join his new teammates until Ohio State finished with its final exams in June.

It's a different case for Timmons, because he at least is learning the defense, if not physically participating. The Steelers want to make sure he's ready for training camp July 23.

"You don't want to keep having a recurring problem," Butler said. "I'd rather see him get well, get healthy, make sure he's in great shape. I don't think it's possible for a rookie to understand what it's like to be in NFL shape until they've done it, until they've been around the guys who they're playing with. These two guys are no different, they don't understand what it is to be in great NFL shape."

At least Woodley is healthy and able to practice, and he has made the kind of progress rarely seen by a college defensive end converting to outside linebacker in the 3-4 defense. The Steelers have him on the left side, where Clark Haggans starts, and he was dropping into pass coverage in the zone defense yesterday.

"Compared to the other guys we've had here and trying to make the transition with them, he's further along than anybody we've had," Butler said.

Usually, a player making that kind of transition does not play on defense his first season, spending most of his time as a rookie learning the position and on special teams. It could be different for Woodley and Timmons, too, provided his injury heals and he shows he can handle it in training camp.

Both are 6 feet 1, but Woodley weighs 30 pounds more than Timmons at 265. At the least, Woodley could rush the passer from end when they go to their dime defenses. They have much different plans for Timmons, when he is healthy. He's quick and speedy and versatile enough that they would like to replace Troy Polamalu with him when they are in certain passing defenses.

Replace an All-Pro safety with a rookie linebacker?

"We're going to stand him up and play him inside in that situation," Butler revealed. "Not in the middle spot, more so what Troy's doing in our quarters [defense, which uses three safeties and three cornerbacks]."

The idea is when an offense, on third down, uses three wide receivers, a tight end and a back, it's better to add another linebacker to the mix and go to what they call the nickel defense with five defensive backs and not six.

"Sometimes, it's better to have a bigger body in there," Butler said. "I think coach [Dick] LeBeau always has been partial to the quarter package. But we feel Lawrence can cover and blitz and play the run and we're going to try to utilize those talents."

There are just three things left: Timmons' groin must heal, he must get into shape and he must show them on the field he can do it.

"Lawrence's education has to continue this summer," Butler said, "in terms of trying to get into the top shape he's going to need to be in to contribute to this football team."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07159/792456-66.stm
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Old 06-08-2007, 12:24 AM   #2
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Default Re: Hopes Still High for Timmons; Woodley Shining

Great article ... that's a pretty candid assesment by Butler about the physical condition of Timmons. I'm not overly concerned yet because as Butler said there is a big learning curve for these kids. Please don't allow Timmons to rush himself back too soon. He is a first round pick. That means he has made the team. Take your time and let this thing heal and don't rush back, Ben ...... oops I mean Lawrence.
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I think timmons will be okay but I really like woodley.
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Its weird - ever since draft day most Steeler fans have been pumped about the Woodley acquisition and slightly dubious about the Timmons selection.

From what we have seen/heard so far it looks like those thoughts are playing out - still, theres plenty of time left for Timmons to make up the lost ground.

Any word on Woodley getting reps at ILB?

Interesting to read about Timmons already being pencilled into the defensive backfield in nickel and dime formations - it does seem an odd place to find rookie LBer who specialises in the pass rush.
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Its weird - ever since draft day most Steeler fans have been pumped about the Woodley acquisition and slightly dubious about the Timmons selection.

From what we have seen/heard so far it looks like those thoughts are playing out - still, theres plenty of time left for Timmons to make up the lost ground.
How odd... its almost like... Its almost like these Steelers fans actually know something about football

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How odd... its almost like... Its almost like these Steelers fans actually know something about football

For sure.

I mean thats the conclusion I discounted first (of course) as it seemed so unlikely....but maybe it is that after all

I'll be keeping a close eye out for John Kuhn this season.
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I'll be keeping a close eye out for John Kuhn this season.
Fair enough. Just don't get in the way of the people who cast the Hall of Fame votes... You sit behind them. They need to see.
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Take it easy on Timmons. We don't want another Kendrell Bell on our hands. Let him heal.

This injury is the fault of jumping in the action too quickly. It happens.
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I think timmons will be okay but I really like woodley.
I agree. What's not to like about a Michigan grad?
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Take it easy on Timmons. We don't want another Kendrell Bell on our hands. Let him heal.

This injury is the fault of jumping in the action too quickly. It happens.
I agree Timmons needs to heal but as far as jumping in the action too quickly, he was injured on the first day of mini-camp; not as if he was worn down at that point.

Injuries happen but given the rumors on his conditioning prior to the draft some injuries are more avoiadable than others.

The idea of Timmons substituting for Troy in some coverage packages is a puzzler to me - Tomlin obviously saw something in the film of the FSU games that a lot of others did not.
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