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Old 06-17-2007, 01:55 PM   #11
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I'm not the biggest Peyton Manning fan at all....But the extra work Peyton puts in with his WRs is one of the reasons why those guys are so good.....I would like to see Ben and the Steelers WRs take a page out of the Colts book....
people who knock ben as washed up, or somebody past their prime simply doesnt understand the coaching aspect of the game. one of the smartest things tomlin has done is surround ben with an abundance of knowledge to tap into.

does anyone think arians was allowed to step on wiz's or whipples toes when it came to coaching ben? no. his job was to coach the receivers. however arians experience is coaching one of the best quarterbacks of all time. (p. manning). im sure he can provide some usefull information.

ken anderson was coached by arguably the best coach of all time. (bill walsh). of course walsh turned anderson into a sb calibur qb and turned montana into a superstar. im sure he has a few things in the bank he can teach ben.

the steelers have come a long way since 2000, when they didnt even employ a quarterbacks coach. sure clements and whipple were good but what professional experience did they really have in the bank to draw from? im sure it wasnt experience from the likes of manning or walsh.

what a novel idea: an ex qb coach and offensive coordinator now calling thew offensive plays. thats a far cry from 2 freaking run blocking tight ends coaches calling the plays. no knock on wiz or mularkey, but their experience says they were better suited to coach tuman and breuner, than roethlisberger.

ben now has all the coaching tools to reach his potential.
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people who knock ben as washed up, or somebody past their prime simply doesnt understand the coaching aspect of the game. one of the smartest things tomlin has done is surround ben with an abundance of knowledge to tap into.

does anyone think arians was allowed to step on wiz's or whipples toes when it came to coaching ben? no. his job was to coach the receivers. however arians experience is coaching one of the best quarterbacks of all time. (p. manning). im sure he can provide some usefull information.

ken anderson was coached by arguably the best coach of all time. (bill walsh). of course walsh turned anderson into a sb calibur qb and turned montana into a superstar. im sure he has a few things in the bank he can teach ben.

the steelers have come a long way since 2000, when they didnt even employ a quarterbacks coach. sure clements and whipple were good but what professional experience did they really have in the bank to draw from? im sure it wasnt experience from the likes of manning or walsh.

what a novel idea: an ex qb coach and offensive coordinator now calling thew offensive plays. thats a far cry from 2 freaking run blocking tight ends coaches calling the plays. no knock on wiz or mularkey, but their experience says they were better suited to coach tuman and breuner, than roethlisberger.

ben now has all the coaching tools to reach his potential.
Dang it Tony...

With posts like that, you don't leave anything for anyone else to say!

Excellent post... And the point is, it seems this coaching staff has basically opened the floodgates on teh steeler talent. Now, we will see what this team can REALLY do.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:12 AM   #13
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I think ken will bring ben back to the front.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:19 AM   #14
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I think ken will bring ben back to the front.
Personally, I think not having instruments shoved into your knees, the a few months later, stopping your body hurtling through the air at 35 miles an hour with your face and a windshield, and then having another body part cut out, and then bruising the brain a few weeks later... will bring Ben back to the front.

I am not really worried about coaching staff.

Though it sure is nice to see it.
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:17 AM   #15
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people who knock ben as washed up, or somebody past their prime simply doesnt understand the coaching aspect of the game.
I know what you mean. I watched some film of Ben from 04 and 05 over the weekend and I'm not sure why so many people are so critical of the guy. Yes, he had a bad season last year and I think it's clear, dispite assertions to the contrary, that the accident, the appendictomy, and the concussion affected him. How could it not? I don't think he got game healthy last year until week 6 and look at what he did to the Chiefs! He was also doing great against the Falcons until that hit.

I don't think the poor guy had a chance last year and I'm excited to see him reach his potential this year!
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I know what you mean. I watched some film of Ben from 04 and 05 over the weekend and I'm not sure why so many people are so critical of the guy. Yes, he had a bad season last year and I think it's clear, dispite assertions to the contrary, that the accident, the appendictomy, and the concussion affected him. How could it not? I don't think he got game healthy last year until week 6 and look at what he did to the Chiefs! He was also doing great against the Falcons until that hit.

I don't think the poor guy had a chance last year and I'm excited to see him reach his potential this year!

Simply... He isn't flashy. Also, he had one bad year... based on his accident.... But of course, the writers have to sell thier newspapers!
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