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Old 06-19-2007, 11:31 PM   #11
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thats alright. i watched parts of the interviews with william and harry (or whatever princes dianna's sons are named) last night on network tv. as respectable as i found them 2 lads and their "normalness" and devotion to potential military duty, ive gotta admit.... ive never even heard them 2 dorks voices or speak as adults. are they really such goobers?

i'll take my chances as an american

btw william said he loves america and harry dissed it. you so better hope william is your next king...
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:57 PM   #12
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thats alright. i watched parts of the interviews with william and harry (or whatever princes dianna's sons are named) last night on network tv. as respectable as i found them 2 lads and their "normalness" and devotion to potential military duty, ive gotta admit.... ive never even heard them 2 dorks voices or speak as adults. are they really such goobers?

i'll take my chances as an american

btw william said he loves america and harry dissed it. you so better hope william is your next king...
Yep, that's for sure.
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:28 AM   #13
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If I were a parent I might monitor computer use, just because of the stuff they could possibly expose themselves to...at least until they're 14 or 15. But I don't really see much of a need to set limits on television...let the kids grow up.

My cousin is really strict with her children about any kind of technology use. I don't think they watch TV more than one hour per day and they only use the computer for homework and such. Anyway, the oldest boy turned out to be gay and the second child (a girl) basically turned into a complete hoe. Coincidence? I think not.
Your right to a point. If your cousin was practicing "law" without "love"...she will get a rebellious child....on the flip side...those who practice "love" without "law"....will get a spoiled child.

The combination of law and love...of monitoring television ...but not being a tyrant about it..is the secret. I have a 13 & 11 year old....and there are still things that I tell them I prefer they not watch. MY Pet Peeve is the fairly new trend in shows of making the Dad the dumbest person in the house...but by this age..I rarely have to say ANYTHING...I have trained my kids to recognize subtle negative influences and they do a good job of self-policing. (I also explain and ask their opinion so they see it as a family decision)
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:30 AM   #14
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If I were a parent I might monitor computer use, just because of the stuff they could possibly expose themselves to...at least until they're 14 or 15. But I don't really see much of a need to set limits on television...let the kids grow up.
The purpose for setting limits on tv, internet, and the likes is for the basic belief - Garbage In, Garbage Out. But it's not just limited to the tv and internet. It's books, music, magazines, etc. For the last year my daughter was reading the young teen magazines and she started to believe that she was getting fat. She's 16, has barely broke 100 lbs (if that) and can be hidden behind a twig - but what she was reading in the magazines was destroying her. Just an example.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hide her from the evils of this world but to each their own.
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:33 AM   #15
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I think most parents are clueless as to the content of some of these shows(anything on Fox Reality channel, and some of the "shows" on M-TV to mention a few) and what time of the day that they are on. If they knew I'm sure more would use it.
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thats alright. i watched parts of the interviews with william and harry (or whatever princes dianna's sons are named) last night on network tv. as respectable as i found them 2 lads and their "normalness" and devotion to potential military duty, ive gotta admit.... ive never even heard them 2 dorks voices or speak as adults. are they really such goobers?

i'll take my chances as an american

btw william said he loves america and harry dissed it. you so better hope william is your next king...
Thats because everyone in the USA automatically assumes your a Porn Star, when you have a name like "Prince Harry".
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Old 06-20-2007, 03:12 PM   #17
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thats alright. i watched parts of the interviews with william and harry (or whatever princes dianna's sons are named) last night on network tv. as respectable as i found them 2 lads and their "normalness" and devotion to potential military duty, ive gotta admit.... ive never even heard them 2 dorks voices or speak as adults. are they really such goobers?

i'll take my chances as an american

btw william said he loves america and harry dissed it. you so better hope william is your next king...
I have no time for the Royalty and their inbred offspring.

William is respectable enough (although posh voices grate on my working class brain) but Harry is definitely a few sandwiches short of a picnic!

He showed his devotion to the armed services by falling out of clubs drunk when his ex-service mates were on Foreign soil playing the role of sitting ducks.

He also dressed as a Nazi for a fancy dress gig - which is risky for most people let alone a member of the British Royal family (who have way too many German links anwyay)
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so before the invention of tv and the computer, america was full of a bunch of fags and hoes?

how did we get here?

lol It's not a technology issue, it's a control issue...some parents can be overprotective and not being able to watch certain shows on tv or surf the internet is just one part of that. I didn't mention that my cousin and her husband home school their kids, are strictly religious, and rarely allow their kids to interact with kids outside of their own household.

I don't mind parents informing their kids of the "dangers" that lurk in today's society and giving them the information and the tools to avoid or deal with them. But I hate it when parents totally strip their children of their independence and their ability to make mistakes. Kids will never fully comprehend consequences until they are allowed to make a few mistakes of their own.
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lol It's not a technology issue, it's a control issue...some parents can be overprotective and not being able to watch certain shows on tv or surf the internet is just one part of that. I didn't mention that my cousin and her husband home school their kids, are strictly religious, and rarely allow their kids to interact with kids outside of their own household.

I don't mind parents informing their kids of the "dangers" that lurk in today's society and giving them the information and the tools to avoid or deal with them. But I hate it when parents totally strip their children of their independence and their ability to make mistakes. Kids will never fully comprehend consequences until they are allowed to make a few mistakes of their own.
One more reason I like the fact my mom and pseudo step dad aren't over protective. They let me find out what's good and bad. Having overprotective parents can annoy kids. Another thing is, I really don't like the fact that a lot of kids get home schooled. It's not good for a child socially. Not to mention, schools pay trained professionals to teach these kind of subjects. It just gets me jacked up that these people have to go to this far. I know school's aren't safe either, but it will give kids a chance to not only improve their skills from an educational stand point, but also socially, emotionally, etc. Being high on religion is no problem because I know families that are pretty high with it and I'm also really good friends with those kind of families.
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One more reason I like the fact my mom and pseudo step dad aren't over protective. They let me find out what's good and bad. Having overprotective parents can annoy kids. Another thing is, I really don't like the fact that a lot of kids get home schooled. It's not good for a child socially. Not to mention, schools pay trained professionals to teach these kind of subjects. It just gets me jacked up that these people have to go to this far. I know school's aren't safe either, but it will give kids a chance to not only improve their skills from an educational stand point, but also socially, emotionally, etc. Being high on religion is no problem because I know families that are pretty high with it and I'm also really good friends with those kind of families.
I agree with what you are saying to a point. I don't like to be over protective of my children and I want them to pay the consequences for their choices (good and bad) but the problem is that a lot of parents are no longer holding the child accountable - instead they (the parents) are looking to blame someone else in society (other parents, teachers, authority figures, government officials, etc.). When parents want start holding children accountable and make them pay consequences or enjoy them, I think we'll see a difference in over protective parents (maybe).

As for home schooling, the agenda for home schooling still requires that the children have time to socialize with others outside the home. And some of the reasons for home schooling (at least in where I live) is that the schools aren't ranked high as far as their educational training and it's not preparing kids for college or a better future - they're just getting by (both the school and the student).

And finally, children need opportunities to prove that they are learning, not just in school but from what their parents are talking to them about (assuming their parents are talking to them about the dangers of the world).
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