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Old 07-03-2007, 07:30 PM   #111
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Or...

The whole thing was seen as judicial tyranny and the president used his constitutional responsibilty to check the judicial branch...

it all depends on ones perspective.
Well, the evidence against him was overwhelming, and the sentence was pretty much the standard sentence for the crime, well within the guidelines set by the law. I guess serial killers also see their crimes differently than others; I don't think "perspective" is an adequate argument here.

Again, I'm not worked up about it. I don't think Scoot was going to cave, and everything we suspected about this administration and its attitude towards us and its internal workings is being proven true,

81% of Americans think that commuting the prison term was wrong. I'd say that number cuts across party lines rather effectively.


Excluding the current president; as much as I disagree with him, he has not yet been judged by history:

The worst 2 presidents in my 53 years were Ford and Carter, by far. There weren't many good ones. Ike was pretty effective, in retrospect. I prospered well under Clinton. Kennedy didn't have enough time, Nixon and LBJ were about equal, and I'm neutral on Reagan and GHWB; Reagan's international work was stellar, but his trickle-down economics set the path for the stratification of classes we are seeing today. I think history will be kinder to GHWB than we are.


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Old 07-03-2007, 07:35 PM   #112
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Dan,

I respect you...

So I am going to stop replying... because in my opinion, over the last few days in political discussions... it has just become WAY to overboard...

When anyone sees demons in every closet, evil in every face, and witches in every cave, it is time to take a breath...

And that is really what I feel is going on here...

This whole discussion has become WAY too polarized... a snap shot of the country at large... My evidence for that is in this very thread... where I have condemned this president myself... Yet still am being painted as defending him, instead of making a logical argument...


Gotta wonder though... What is the possibility of one of the Bengals getting a pardon?
Thing is, I don't think people are seeing demons and witches; I think they are reacting in genuine outrage at the perversion of justice.

Again, I'm shrugging at it. It's what I expected, and to me it proves that this administration considers itself and its actions above the law.


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Old 07-03-2007, 07:58 PM   #113
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Dan,

I respect you...

So I am going to stop replying... because in my opinion, over the last few days in political discussions... it has just become WAY to overboard...

When anyone sees demons in every closet, evil in every face, and witches in every cave, it is time to take a breath...

And that is really what I feel is going on here...

This whole discussion has become WAY too polarized... a snap shot of the country at large... My evidence for that is in this very thread... where I have condemned this president myself... Yet still am being painted as defending him, instead of making a logical argument...


Gotta wonder though... What is the possibility of one of the Bengals getting a pardon?
I agree to a cease fire but, as I said in response to posters who did not want to read threads on Cowher staying or leaving last season, if someone is not interested in a post that does not make inflammatory personal attacks the simple answer is not to read the thread or posts.

If the Administration wants to infer the probation office recommended probation for Scooter Libby (not true) and claim that there is nothing out of the ordinary about commuting a sentence while the defendant is appealing the sentence and has not served a day of that sentence (not true), I do not think it is overkill to cite source documents (not my personal opinions) to the contrary.

I have said all I will be saying on this subject but if any statement I have made is not factually correct please feel free to correct me just as I have freely pointed out the clear misstatements of the Administration over the last day.

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Old 07-03-2007, 08:03 PM   #114
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what about the rule of law??
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I have said all I will be saying on this subject

But AD...

I seriously want to know...

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But AD...

I seriously want to know...

If W or Cheney are Bengals fans, very high (and, if so, Kimo von Olhoffen will not sleep easily until the statute of limitations runs on potential federal charges for his "assault" on Carson Palmer).
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If W or Cheney are Bengals fans, very high (and, if so, Kimo von Olhoffen will not sleep easily until the statute of limitations runs on potential federal charges for his "assault" on Carson Palmer).
What assault on carson palmer?
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If W or Cheney are Bengals fans, very high (and, if so, Kimo von Olhoffen will not sleep easily until the statute of limitations runs on potential federal charges for his "assault" on Carson Palmer).
im really beginning to wonder if you "practice law" in your spare time.

if so, can i get you on cosignment? i got some "dirty" work i gotta get done with the proper backing.

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im really beginning to wonder if you "practice law" in your spare time.

if so, can i get you on cosignment? i got some "dirty" work i gotta get done with the proper backing.

Sorta like you never had any dirty work already?
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