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Old 07-10-2007, 09:37 AM   #1
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Default No Ben?

i saw the thread about what if there were no steelers and i thought of this. what if the chargers ended with ben and we got philip rivers do u think we still would of got that ring or would we still be struggling. im happy that we have ben now, but i gotta admit rivers was my favorite quarterback coming out of college that year. i got to go to four of his games, i even got to meet him once. i never really saw ben play until the mac championship either his soph or junior year (pretty sure it was his junior year)
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:50 AM   #2
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I definitly think Rivers would have got us our fifth ring if not by now like Ben then we would definitly be contenders. Rivers, in my opinion, is a franchise QB.
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:53 AM   #3
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I definitly think Rivers would have got us our fifth ring if not by now like Ben then we would definitly be contenders. Rivers, in my opinion, is a franchise QB.
I tend to agree with this. Both Ben and Rivers are far and away better QBs than anybody we've had at the position since Bradshaw. I don't mean to sound like I'm damning either player with faint praise by saying that, because it's really not saying much.
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:56 AM   #4
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be glad we got ben.this will be his best year yet.
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I'm with TSK on this one, I would be more than happy to have Rivers leading this offense. While it's hard to predict if he would have won us a ring in 05, I do feel he would have eventually brought us our fifth Lombardi Trophy.
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Hm...I think the Chargers would've been better off picking Ben, but that's just my opinion. I'm not sure if Rivers would've delivered here, it's always tough to tell with questions like these.
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Default Re: No Ben?

Lets say the draft plays out the way it did on picks 1-10 except Ben is not in it. So who was the 4th QB taken in that draft and would we have taken him?
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Here's the first round...O.o


Sel# Team Player Pos. School
1 San Diego Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2 Oakland Robert Gallery T Iowa
3 Arizona Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
4 N.Y. Giants Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
5 Washington Sean Taylor FS Miami
6 Cleveland Kellen Winslow TE Miami
7 Detroit Roy Williams WR Texas
8 Atlanta DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech
9 Jacksonville Reggie Williams WR Washington
10 Houston Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina
11 Pittsburgh Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami, O.
12 N.Y. Jets Jonathan Vilma MLB Miami
13 Buffalo Lee Evans WR Wisconsin
14 Chicago Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma
15 Tampa Bay Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State
16 Philadelphia Shawn Andrews G Arkansas
17 Denver D.J. Williams OLB Miami
18 New Orleans Will Smith DE Ohio State
19 Miami Vernon Carey T Miami
20 Minnesota Kenechi Udeze DE Southern California
21 New England Vince Wilfork NT Miami
22 Buffalo J.P. Losman QB Tulane
23 Seattle Marcus Tubbs DT Texas
24 St. Louis Steven Jackson RB Oregon State
25 Green Bay Ahmad Carroll CB Arkansas
26 Cincinnati Chris Perry RB Michigan
27 Houston Jason Babin DE Western Michigan
28 Carolina Chris Gamble CB Ohio State
29 Atlanta Michael Jenkins WR Ohio State
30 Detroit Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech
31 San Francisco Rashaun Woods WR Oklahoma State
32 New England Benjamin Watson TE Georgia
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Default Re: No Ben?

I like Ben -- I am a UVa fan, so being in ACC country I got to see Rivers a lot at NC State - he started all 4 years...

I think the bigger question is - if Tommy Maddox didn't get hurt in week 2 of the 2004 season, when would Ben have become the starter? No way Maddox goes 15-1 in 2004. In that scenario Ben never plays in 2004, can't convince the Bus to stay one more year, maybe the Steelers draft a RB instead of Heath Miller, maybe Ben gets the start in week 8 when the Steelers are 2-5 in 2005 and maybe leads them to 3-5 wins and someone else wins Super Bowl XL. How crazy is that???????????
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:12 AM   #10
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Default Re: No Ben?

i cant see phillip rivers in a steelers jersey. NC State in one of my favorite college teams but im glad we picked Ben. Granted, Rivers would probably have been more consistent, but he hasnt won a superbowl yet, anywhere.

I think Big Ben epitomizes more of a steelers toughness than rivers would anyways.
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