Why register with the Steelers Fever Forums?
 • Intelligent and friendly discussions.
 • It's free and it's quick. Always.
 • Enter events in the forums calendar.
 • Very user friendly software.
 • Exclusive contests and giveaways.

 Donate to Steelers Fever, Click here
 Our 2014 Goal: $450.00 - To Date: $450.00 (100.00%)
 Home | Forums | Editorials | Shop | Tickets | Downloads | Contact Pittsburgh Steelers Forum Feed Not Just Fans. Hardcore Fans.

Go Back   Steelers Fever Forums > Miscellaneous > Locker Room


Steelers Fever Fan Shop

Doc's Sports Get FREE NFL Picks and College Football picks as well as Football Lines like live NFL Lines and updated NFL Power Rankings all at Doc's Sports Service.

Steelers

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-26-2007, 07:10 PM   #21
Preacher
Living Legend
 

Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,890
Member Number: 16327
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default Re: Tips for Home Theater cables...why are they so expensive???

Quote:
Originally Posted by revefsreleets View Post
Actually, I think the bottom line is that unless you have money to boin, it's better to take a "wait and see" approach about Blu Ray vs. HD DVD and better to wait for 6.1 to come down in price.
Your probably right.

The technology is still pretty dang knew.

However, LCD/Plasmas are about to become a thing of the past...

There is a new TV coming out called a Laser TV. Haven't heard much, but it is unbelievalbe. THen there are things further out... TV's that are as thick as a sheet, you can roll them up and put them in your pocket. The two outside skins contain a SINGLE layer of electrons which will agitate to produce the picture.... I could be wrong on the specifics... but not on the general idea!

Wow... next 15 years will be amazing when it comes to picture.
Preacher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2007, 07:12 PM   #22
Hammer67
Head Coach
Supporter
 
Hammer67's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Boston, MI (originally from Moon Township, PA)
Posts: 1,988
Gender: Male
Member Number: 651
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Tips for Home Theater cables...why are they so expensive???

Quote:
Originally Posted by MACH1 View Post
The rear should be on a separate channel than the others. The sound if its a plane flying from front to rear the sound should follow from front to rear, so it should sound like it passed right over you.
Center, fronts, sides and rear are on separate channels. So the rear should not have the voices like the center to focus on the main dialog and the tv.

Here's a place to go check out. They explain it better than I can.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/
That is another great forum for advice. I visit there often. 6.1 and 7.1 are indeed seperate surround channels much like the left and right rear channels. Not many films are currently mixed in 6.1 or 7.1 yet. And, for what it is worth, there isn't much use to those formats as of right now. Most decent mid range receivers will support those channels and it isn't too expensive to jump to them. You just have to factor in where you are going to place them.

I concur that it might be better to wait out the Blu Ray and HD-DVD war right now. Does anyone remember the Beta/VHS battle in the early 80's??? I sure do, and this is shaping up to be even worse. I know there are hybrid players out there, but I would wait. This will be resolved within a few years. Those formats will also have the 6.1 and 7.1 sound mixes (Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Digital Plus, etc.).

As it stands, I would put the money towards a great TV that will be the centerpiece of your system.

Regarding Bose, I still think you can find better or equal quality for much less...like Monster cables, they are marketing geniuses.
__________________


"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill

Hammer67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2007, 07:18 PM   #23
Hammer67
Head Coach
Supporter
 
Hammer67's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Boston, MI (originally from Moon Township, PA)
Posts: 1,988
Gender: Male
Member Number: 651
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Tips for Home Theater cables...why are they so expensive???

Quote:
Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
I understand that...

What I was wondering... was if if you would hear a faint part of the conversation ITSELF in the rear main, so that you felt like you were in close... or if it would ONLY be fronts still... that is what I meant by mirrored. Will it provide only the background and passing sounds... or give a slight feed of the front channel to make you feel "Closer to teh action"?

Can you tell I am an audiophile?
This is 100% up to the person mixing the audio (i.e the source). That would be the film/DVD sound tech and director. As long as you have decent quality receiver and speakers, you should be able to hear everything.

From my experience, there isn't a huge difference in th way high end stuff vs. decent mid range speakers/receivers for the non audiophile. I have always been more into the video quality. I can tell the difference between low end audio equipment and mid range, but it is much harder to tell the difference between mid range and high end. And, the cost of high end is usually not worth it to me. Video and TV's are another story.
__________________


"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill

Hammer67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2007, 08:23 PM   #24
revefsreleets
Living Legend
 
revefsreleets's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Akron, Ohio Home of LeBron James
Posts: 15,403
Gender: Male
Member Number: 5353
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Tips for Home Theater cables...why are they so expensive???

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer67 View Post
That is another great forum for advice. I visit there often. 6.1 and 7.1 are indeed seperate surround channels much like the left and right rear channels. Not many films are currently mixed in 6.1 or 7.1 yet. And, for what it is worth, there isn't much use to those formats as of right now. Most decent mid range receivers will support those channels and it isn't too expensive to jump to them. You just have to factor in where you are going to place them.

I concur that it might be better to wait out the Blu Ray and HD-DVD war right now. Does anyone remember the Beta/VHS battle in the early 80's??? I sure do, and this is shaping up to be even worse. I know there are hybrid players out there, but I would wait. This will be resolved within a few years. Those formats will also have the 6.1 and 7.1 sound mixes (Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Digital Plus, etc.).

As it stands, I would put the money towards a great TV that will be the centerpiece of your system.

Regarding Bose, I still think you can find better or equal quality for much less...like Monster cables, they are marketing geniuses.
I took out my trash to the dumpster today and ( I have to look because there was a large Raccoon that lived in there once) I saw a ton of Beta tapes in there. I haven't seen a Beta tape in years. It's interesting, because Beta was the superior technology, but it lost out.

As for Bose, check out the specs. They deliver pound for pound and dollar for dollar as good a product as any out there. If you read Consumer Reports, forget about it. Bose and CR are mortal enemies from 25 years ago when CR wrongly criticized Bose.

Anyway, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and taste in sound varies a lot.
__________________
Official Steelersfever Arians Nuthugger
revefsreleets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2007, 10:02 PM   #25
Hammer67
Head Coach
Supporter
 
Hammer67's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Boston, MI (originally from Moon Township, PA)
Posts: 1,988
Gender: Male
Member Number: 651
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Tips for Home Theater cables...why are they so expensive???

Quote:
Originally Posted by revefsreleets View Post
As for Bose, check out the specs. They deliver pound for pound and dollar for dollar as good a product as any out there. If you read Consumer Reports, forget about it. Bose and CR are mortal enemies from 25 years ago when CR wrongly criticized Bose.

Anyway, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and taste in sound varies a lot.
Well, I understand how you feel. It's like someone saying a particular car is not that great but, in fact, you own it! I say, if you are happy with them, then they were worth the money to you.

Personally, i look elsewhere. I know there marketing guides make audiophiles on the sites I visit cringe! My parents ponied out for the wave radio/cd player. Aside from the aesthetic value to it, they regret the purchase. I mean, it is a decent CD player, but they paid WAY too much for what they got.

I just prefer other alternatives that sound just as good to me. Every time I go to a Bose outlet, I am underwhelmed, especially after comparing price.

But, then again, I don't claim to be an audiophile. I am more of a "videophile".
__________________


"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill

Hammer67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 09:42 AM   #26
rbryan
Team President
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Maui by way of New Brighton PA
Posts: 2,030
Member Number: 5196
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Tips for Home Theater cables...why are they so expensive???

I wasn't looking to spend a grand on the sound system. I have a Sony Vega HD 55" with nothing right now. I've seen systems in Walmart for $300-400, I'm no audiophile either so what do you think about the lower end stuff.

Also, I've been waiting for the HD DVR's to come down in price, whats a good deal for one of those now??
rbryan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 10:28 AM   #27
Hammer67
Head Coach
Supporter
 
Hammer67's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Boston, MI (originally from Moon Township, PA)
Posts: 1,988
Gender: Male
Member Number: 651
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Tips for Home Theater cables...why are they so expensive???

Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan View Post
I wasn't looking to spend a grand on the sound system. I have a Sony Vega HD 55" with nothing right now. I've seen systems in Walmart for $300-400, I'm no audiophile either so what do you think about the lower end stuff.

Also, I've been waiting for the HD DVR's to come down in price, whats a good deal for one of those now??
Well, you get what you pay for. I would save and get something nice. A decent set of speakers can last a lifetime, so their value increases. Whatever you do decide on though, I would research it and read reviews.

Why not just lease a DVR through the cable or sattelite TV company? It's usually cheap and you always have the latest technology....plus, if it breaks, you turn it in for a new one.
__________________


"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill

Hammer67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 10:45 AM   #28
rbryan
Team President
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Maui by way of New Brighton PA
Posts: 2,030
Member Number: 5196
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Tips for Home Theater cables...why are they so expensive???

Direct TV was giving one for free for extending the contract last year but it wasn't HD. I will check with them again to see what kind of deal they will give me. Appreciate the input.

I want to save Steeler games (long term) and maybe a handfull of other shows. Can you transfer to another DVR or back up in case the DVR goes bad or becomes outdated?
rbryan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 11:18 AM   #29
MACH1
Quest For Seven
Supporter
 
MACH1's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Potataho
Posts: 14,542
Member Number: 3236
Thanks: 1,919
Thanked 5,805 Times in 2,153 Posts
Default Re: Tips for Home Theater cables...why are they so expensive???

Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan View Post
Direct TV was giving one for free for extending the contract last year but it wasn't HD. I will check with them again to see what kind of deal they will give me. Appreciate the input.

I want to save Steeler games (long term) and maybe a handfull of other shows. Can you transfer to another DVR or back up in case the DVR goes bad or becomes outdated?
I have directv, and if you want to upgrade, sometimes you have play the customer service rep. roulette game with d*. If at first you don't get the deal you want keep calling back till you do. But if you want a FREE DVR non hd go online to your account and click update equipment and in the Offer box put this in and you should be on your way. "DVR4U2"

I not real sure that you can "backup" the dvr, A person might be able to back up to a media center computer or something like that or if you have a dvd recorder you can record whats on the dvr that way.
__________________


ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
MACH1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 03:18 PM   #30
Preacher
Living Legend
 

Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,890
Member Number: 16327
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default Re: Tips for Home Theater cables...why are they so expensive???

Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan View Post
Direct TV was giving one for free for extending the contract last year but it wasn't HD. I will check with them again to see what kind of deal they will give me. Appreciate the input.

I want to save Steeler games (long term) and maybe a handfull of other shows. Can you transfer to another DVR or back up in case the DVR goes bad or becomes outdated?
My HD direct TV box has USB ports in the back...

I haven't tried it, but I think that I could hook it up, and have it pop up as a removable hardrive on my computer...

Again, I haven't tried it yet.
Preacher is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Shoutbox provided by vBShout v6.2.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.0.8 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Navbar with Avatar by Motorradforum
no new posts