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Old 07-31-2007, 08:52 AM   #1
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Default Why dont they talk about Noll

Alright, with the passing of Bill Walsh yesterday there is a poll on si.com asking who is the greatest coach of all time. It has Walshe, Shula, Lombardi, Landry...and Paul Brown. Dont get me wrong, Walsh was a great coach and innovated the offensive system within the game.

My question is this to everyone. When the conversation of great coaches come up with the so called 'experts' why dont any of them bring up Noll. I mean he only turned a seller-dweller of a franchise into arguably the best team ever. And he innovated the defense with the Steel Curtain. Sure he had all those HOF members but someone had to coach them and get them to perform. I duno I would like to know everyone elses thoughts on this. I just feel Noll gets the short end of the stick when it comes to conversations like these.
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Old 07-31-2007, 09:02 AM   #2
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I agree. If you are going to include Landry in that conversation, you have to also include Noll. After all Noll is the ONLY coach to ever take his team to win four Super Bowls, and two of those were at "the great" Tom Landry's expense. But that is ESPN for you, all flash, no substance.
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Old 07-31-2007, 09:31 AM   #3
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I still think Noll is the best coach that there ever was. You can't complain about 4 superbowl rings no one else has done that.
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Doesn't surprise me - Noll got summarily dissed back in the day too. Of course, SI is a joke, so who cares?
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Noll doesn't ever appear to get any credit, although he did get credit as the best on Mike and Mike in the morning. But then rarely is it ever mentioned that Dungy came from the Noll coaching tree.
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IMO, a good bit of it has to do with Noll's personality. A very quiet and reserved coach for the most part. He wasn't a big interview type of guy, he did not have his own TV show on FSN Pittsburgh and you never saw him in a commercial. The man never tooted his own horn or felt the need to paste his face on your television screen and he always gave credit to his players, never himself.

And finally, this is SI we are talking about here. Just my opinion.
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Does anyone know if Noll travels to give speeches? If so him not being talked about as one of the best probably lowers the fees he could charge for speaking. I hate the argument that his genius was in who he drafted and not how he coached those HOF'rs.
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I think that part of it was also due to the lackluster performance of Steelers teams after the Bradshaw era, and the fact that not many of Noll's assistants went on to successful head coaching careers, Dungy notwithstanding.

I would put Noll in the top 10, but is he really up there with those guys listed over his entire career?


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ESPN - 'nuff said.
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I think that part of it was also due to the lackluster performance of Steelers teams after the Bradshaw era, and the fact that not many of Noll's assistants went on to successful head coaching careers, Dungy notwithstanding.

I would put Noll in the top 10, but is he really up there with those guys listed over his entire career?


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I think he matches up with Landry - the Cowboys were no great shakes for the most part during the '80s either.
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