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Old 08-02-2007, 05:50 PM   #31
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I have DirecTV becuase of Sunday ticket but HD Lite is an issue and I do not know if the new satellites will fix it, since DirecTV has decided it will add HD of crap like the Food Channel rather than increase the bandwidth for sports and movie channels where the full HD would actually make a difference.

The weak spot of DirecTV is getting the satellite capacity to spot broadcast local stations - no way they can avoid compressing HD signals for the locals, which is a big issue since the network broadcasts on the locals are still what most viewers watch and DirecTV cannot offer an uncompressed network feed from NY or LA since the local stations & networks will not permit out of local market network feeds to be received.

My understanding is FIOS (which will have little compression) is a Verizon format rather than an AT&T format (my phone company in ATL) . Given the options of AT&T, Comcast, and DirecTV here, I will stick with DirecTV to get the Steelers every Sunday (hopefully more consistently in at least HD Lite if CBS will spring for some more HDTV broadcast capacity).
I had the Sunday Ticket last year but canceled it because I found a killer Steeler bar close to where I live...makes the Sunday ticket kind of useless!
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Old 08-02-2007, 06:01 PM   #32
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I had the Sunday Ticket last year but canceled it because I found a killer Steeler bar close to where I live...makes the Sunday ticket kind of useless!
Sunday Ticket is about $300 when you add in.the HDTV package Figure around $25 in food & drink at the sports bar for each of the 10 Steelers games not on ESPN or the national game, add in the excitement of potentially getting pulled over on the drive home (in the mid-90s the cops actually hung out in the parking lot of the sports bar I visited to watch the Steelers on the lookout for wobbly drivers) and IMO buying DirecTV to get an unobstructed view of the Steelers each week on my HDTV wins out.
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Old 08-02-2007, 06:05 PM   #33
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Sunday Ticket is about $300 when you add in.the HDTV package Figure around $25 in food & drink at the sports bar for each of the 10 Steelers games not on ESPN or the national game, add in the excitement of potentially getting pulled over on the drive home (in the mid-90s the cops actually hung out in the parking lot of the sports bar I visited to watch the Steelers on the lookout for wobbly drivers) and IMO buying DirecTV to get an unobstructed view of the Steelers each week on my HDTV wins out.
Plus if you have a kid that likes to watch the games with you, cant go to the bar.
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Old 08-02-2007, 06:28 PM   #34
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Both good points but:

a) My wife goes and doesn't drink (DD!!!)
b) No kids
c) I love the atmosphere of having 50+ people as crazy as I am watching the game. Makes me feel like I am home for a few hours each weekend in the fall.
d) The bar we go to opens specifically for our club and we have a giant screen on a wall with HD. Plus, private bartenders. Just eat before you go and drink the $1.50 specials they run!!!

But, it is mostly for the atmosphere. I found myself watching the game by myself in my living room two years ago. It was ok but I missed some people to cheer with.
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Both good points but:

a) My wife goes and doesn't drink (DD!!!)
b) No kids
c) I love the atmosphere of having 50+ people as crazy as I am watching the game. Makes me feel like I am home for a few hours each weekend in the fall.
d) The bar we go to opens specifically for our club and we have a giant screen on a wall with HD. Plus, private bartenders. Just eat before you go and drink the $1.50 specials they run!!!
I'm jealous.
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Sunday Ticket is about $300 when you add in.the HDTV package Figure around $25 in food & drink at the sports bar for each of the 10 Steelers games not on ESPN or the national game, add in the excitement of potentially getting pulled over on the drive home (in the mid-90s the cops actually hung out in the parking lot of the sports bar I visited to watch the Steelers on the lookout for wobbly drivers) and IMO buying DirecTV to get an unobstructed view of the Steelers each week on my HDTV wins out.
Ding Ding Ding We have a winner! And $25.00 per visit is cheap!
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I purchased Directv back in the mid-nineties because of my temper. I admit to not having much patience, or the ability to tolerate some of the smack talking from opposing fans.

That's why I'm either at home watching the game with my son, wife, and friends, or at Heinz Field with even more friends who think and act likewise.
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I've had both DTV and cable, and I've stuck with cable (Time Warner) for a long time because their prices are better if you bundle packages (I have roadrunner and and HDTV DVR with several premium channels). One nice thing is that service calls are free, and dish companies charge a lot of money to come out. I Iooked at ATT's new TV service, but if I want their DSL I'd need a landline, and I'd have to pay at least an extra $25 a month for something I don't want or need.

But theses battles between the Big 10 Network and NFL Network and TWC are bothering me. I want those channels, and I'll pay for them (which is what TWC wants) because they aren't free, because NFL and Big 10 charge the carriers themselves. It's really not fair. They charge the cable companies for the service, but expect the cable companies to give it away for free. That won't work, because the cable company will have to pass the charge on to every subscriber, whether they watch it or not.
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I've had both DTV and cable, and I've stuck with cable (Time Warner) for a long time because their prices are better if you bundle packages (I have roadrunner and and HDTV DVR with several premium channels). One nice thing is that service calls are free, and dish companies charge a lot of money to come out. I Iooked at ATT's new TV service, but if I want their DSL I'd need a landline, and I'd have to pay at least an extra $25 a month for something I don't want or need.

But theses battles between the Big 10 Network and NFL Network and TWC are bothering me. I want those channels, and I'll pay for them (which is what TWC wants) because they aren't free, because NFL and Big 10 charge the carriers themselves. It's really not fair. They charge the cable companies for the service, but expect the cable companies to give it away for free. That won't work, because the cable company will have to pass the charge on to every subscriber, whether they watch it or not.
Right but what you are leaving out of that equation is that every channel charges the cable/DTV companies to carry them. Plus, the cable companies are free to sell local advertising on those channels which offsets the costs. I know NFL Network wants some ridiculous number, but, they can probably make more in advertisin on that channel so it works out. Cable companies need to do what's best for their subscribers....
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It isn't that simple. The dish companies don't have to deal with local franchise fee's and infrastructure, to mention a couple. They also make very little money on their local spots. In Cleveland they average about $12 a spot on the bulk of their spot advertising.

Trust me, I worked for the cable company, and they have a LOT of overhead that dish companies don't have to deal with. The dish companies also have a loss leader mentality. They are willing to lose money on a subscriber for a year just to get them hooked then crank the bill and make their money back later.

It's a complicated issue, but the important thing is that these companies are all trying to balance profit with customer service. There's a definite reason that TWC is fighting the fight they are.
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