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Old 08-07-2007, 08:07 PM   #31
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They work very hard at jobs that most "Americans" wouldn't even consider---especially in argiculture and certain service industries.
It's a matter of Mexico not giving a crap and sending their poor, uneducated to the US so they don't have to deal with them. Go on the net and look at Mexico's immigration policy here I'll post the website for you it will make your butt pucker http://www.lonestardiary.com/?page_id=476.
and http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/lillpop022707.htm

As far as agriculture do what Colorado is doing their using prisoners to do their agriculture work and if I have to hear "jobs american's don't want to do " one more time I'm going to
Sorry but I say build the damn fence. I'm not sure where you live but I live in California and this state has gone right into the toilet. English has become a thing of the past billboards are in Spanish, emergency rooms are overrun our school system is a joke, uninsured morotists are all over the road, gang member run a muck and who do you think is picking up the slack ? I am Joe taxpaying citizen. Sorry if your here illegally your breaking the law and I for one am getting awful tired of paying for it. I agree with master of puppets as far as construction work goes that USED to be a very good paying occupation not any more these low life employers are looking for nothing but cheap labor. Sorry but I'm putting the violin away on this one I say get rid of their ass and ship 'em out of here and you can send Bush the senate and the house of representatives with 'em because they sure don't speak for me.
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:05 PM   #32
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Amen, brother...
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Old 08-08-2007, 06:25 PM   #33
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Default Re: 14 Reason to Deport Illegal Aliens

would someone please tell me who did the work that "americans wont due " 30 years ago ,BEFORE , we had 20 + million illegals? i seem to remember there being vegetables in the market 30 years ago ......who in the hell was pickin them?
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Old 08-08-2007, 07:09 PM   #34
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Sadly, I think the real answer is so far buried, that very few will ever really admit it.

The more Americans that fall into the entitlement mentality, the more they will create a vacuum for illegal activity to happen.

I am absolutely against illegal entry in this nation by ANY nationality... including Irish and Italian, which I am.

The problem here, is the same as the drug problem, it is one of supply, demand, lots of posturing, little being done... and in the end, big political stands.

Reagan gave amnesty to illegal aliens... that was supposed to be it.

Neither he nor the democrat congress, neither Clinton nor the democrat/republican congress, neither Bush nor the republican/democrat congress did anything the stem it afterwards.

As soon as ANYONE tries to do something about it, everyone is up in arms about how it is a human rights issue. There are cities which are choosing to become a "City of Refuge" where the police will not cooperate with border agents, nor the federal government.

But is sure is politically popular to "Blame Bush" for this problem. And before you Republicans jump on the bandwagon... Guess what, if it is a Democrat elected next... The next game will be "Blame --democrat name--"

Please. Don't tell me it isn't politics, it isn't both sides playing for power. Anyone who thinks that is just fooling themselves.
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Old 08-08-2007, 07:50 PM   #35
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The worst thing is our borders aren't just open, they're unsupervised.

Achmed can put a sombrero on his head, walk across the border, and say "Me llamo Juan."

Then he can start taking care of lawns, which justifies buying fertilizer. If he's patient, he can fill a Ryder truck....
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Old 08-08-2007, 07:54 PM   #36
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what I find funny is Bush want to send our national guard over to Iraq to secure their borders. He can't secure our borders and he wants to secure theirs this country does everything bass ackwards.
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What pisses me off about the goddamned mexicans is that the think its their god-given right to come to america and screw things up for the rest of us.

also, they provide a good source of democrat propagnanda:

there are about 45-50 million americans w/o healthcare
about 25 million illegal aliens
that means that only about 20-some million citizens out of ofer 300 million americans don't have healthcare

in my opinion, around 15 percent is a stat i can live with, especially when many of that remaining 20 mill is "fringe members of society" like people who are living off of welfare with no contribution to society..
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Also to add to the list they take away jobs of the americans lower class. And they crowd up all the hospitals because a hosptial cant turn any on away and then they dont pay for it. The second time i dislocated my shoulder. A stupid mexican was in fronting of me because he had a dam splinter in he foot. And he was bitching because i went ahead of him.

My poltics teacher is so pro illegal immgration and says that america economy runs on them

I am going to show her this then will see who she wants crossing our boarder
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In my area,my friends are out of work because of all the illegal Mexicans taking the construction jobs.The employers don't want to have to pay thier workers $15/hour to do a hard and dangerous job when they can pay some stupid illegal Mexican less than minimum wage to do the same thing half-assed and high/drunk.Oh,and if an illegal dies on the job,the company doesn't have to do anything about it besides get rid of the body...because the person never existed in the first place.
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Wow. How much of this is analytical acumen and how much is just hate for a man? Checks and balances again. Doesn't the much more unpopular congress still have veto override power? Has Bush even vetoed anything from Congress? These guys are all in cahoots.

As for "deriving the most benefit", think about what you just said in the context of this particular subject. Aren't the illegal aliens and manipulative foreigners the ones benefiting most from these scenarios? I don't think these guys are even allowed to register to vote, and they aren't likely to vote Republican if they were. This isn't some vast right wing conspiracy, it's a horribly broken system, and, as far as I can see, when pretty intelligent people like yourself get caught up in the semantics and unimportant and diversionary minutiae, it's just another victory for "them".
Bush & Rove know what happened to the GOP in California after former GOP Governor Pete Wilson ran hard against immigrants in the mid-90s. Legal Hispanic/American citizen voters are the fastest growing demographic group in the country. Both the Dems and GOP are terrified of doing anything on immigration that is regarded as "Hispanic bashing" and will tilt the three largest states of the 21st century (California/Florida//Texas), each of which have large Hispanic populations, into the column of the opposing party.

Hate to break it to you but an illegal making less than $7.50 an hour is not benefiting the most from low wage rates - instead, it is companies that exploit the surplus value of labor that benefit the most from paying lower wages to increase profits.

And as far as "hate for the man" my views on Bush are not driven by personal animosity against him, seeing as I voted for him in 2000 - it is many of his policies (Iraq/deficit spending/lack of accountability for the executive branch) that I despise. As for Bush not vetoing anything from Congress, he had a GOP Congress for the first six years of his Administration.

In closing, before you accuse someone else of getting "caught up in semantics" I would appreciate some guidance as to what exactly you mean when you refer to "manipulative foreigners" and a "victory for 'them'"
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