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Old 08-15-2007, 11:21 AM   #11
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how in the hell did we ever elect a guy named Grover?
Blame the muppet party. They are the ones who pushed for that blue, fuzzy, red-nosed bastard.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:30 AM   #12
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I disagree. I believe that if more Americans took an interest in their country's history we'd be a much stronger nation.

I am in total agreement, but in the grand scheme of our history and things that are most important. Remembering what number Millard Fillmore was is pretty far down the list of importance, me thinks.

And that's coming from someoen who minored in US history because of interest.
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I disagree. I believe that if more Americans took an interest in their country's history we'd be a much stronger nation.
I can agree with that. Most of the garbage that the government/politicians sell us on a daily basis would never see the light of day if the populace was more educated and tuned in. They exploit this to a T, which is why politics nowadays are all about sound bites and talking points, rather than any kind of substance.

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And twice at that???
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Blame the muppet party. They are the ones who pushed for that blue, fuzzy, red-nosed bastard.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:25 PM   #15
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I disagree. I believe that if more Americans took an interest in their country's history we'd be a much stronger nation.
But how is knowing the Presidents in order from 1-43 going to make us a stronger nation?

I agree if more people took interest in the history of this country, it would be stronger. But somethings, like that above, would do nothing except win some games of trivial pursuit.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:39 PM   #16
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Default Re: New US dollar coin: The Americans don't know their Presidents

What about remembering at least the first 5 or 10 presidents? I mean, especially the first 4 presidents who were the most important ones that shaped today's US?

Like I said we don't have many Presidents to forget than our Prime Ministers whose position was created since 1911, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn if we've got same problem when it comes to remembering the Prime Ministers. But I sure can remember the name of first 6 Mongol kings or khaans.
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Off the top of my head...

Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams, Jackson, Van Buren, Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Taylor, Filmore, Pierce... someone... Lincoln... Carter?

The hardest my district... Hempfield... ever tried was teaching us a song in third grade... This is as much as I remember..

We remember the important ones. A lot of them fall through the cracks for doing very little to greatly alter the bigger picture...
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What about remembering at least the first 5 or 10 presidents? I mean, especially the first 4 presidents who were the most important ones that shaped today's US?

Like I said we don't have many Presidents to forget than our Prime Ministers whose position was created since 1911, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn if we've got same problem when it comes to remembering the Prime Ministers. But I sure can remember the name of first 6 Mongol kings or khaans.
good questions Mongol. i leaned the presidents in the 1st grade. i was raised on an air force base and perhaps the curriculim is different in the average public schools cause i remember nothing else emphasizing knowing all the presidents when i entered civilian public schools.

my bigger question is why public schools dont teach our youth how to pay their own taxes after they turn 18 and get a job, or set up an IRA, or even how to invest in the stock market.

i would think having the foundation to financially succeed would be more important than being able to name 50 states and 43 presidents in less than 5 minutes.

but then again, the rich wouldnt get richer if we tought our youth practical economics for free as opposed to mundane trivia.

thank God i know there are 9 planets in the solar system though...

oh wait...

poor pluto.
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my bigger question is why public schools dont teach our youth how to pay their own taxes after they turn 18 and get a job, or set up an IRA, or even how to invest in the stock market.
When I was in high school, like 5 years ago , they DID have a course which dealt with these things as an elective. I can't remember the name. Wait I just did. It was called "On Your Own."

A great idea, that was just getting going when I was graduating, but it should surely be made part of the core curriculum.

That or an alternative mathematics class that deals with real life application. I'm sorry, but logarithms are just bananas...
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When I was in high school, like 5 years ago , they DID have a course which dealt with these things as an elective. I can't remember the name. Wait I just did. It was called "On Your Own."

A great idea, that was just getting going when I was graduating, but it should surely be made part of the core curriculum.

That or an alternative mathematics class that deals with real life application. I'm sorry, but logarithms are just bananas...
unfortunately schools are designed to turn out "working class" as opposed to the donald trumps or warren buffetts of the world. bill gates was smart enough to realize college was just a waste of his time.

its funny how schools will teach the functions for compounded interest in algebra without letting the kids know how it is actually applied.

i hated math because i always saw it as a mundane chore. of course i was always tought the formulas 1st without being taught what those formulas could be applied to in a real life setting.

i almost think the backwards form of teaching is a conspiracy to keep the majority in the "working class". our nation and capitalism wouldnt survive without it.
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