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Old 08-22-2007, 01:54 PM   #21
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i think i will have to agree with tony on this.. i would rather take my chances with ben throwing the ball.. and besides, we can always dress the wrs up as cheese so he can hit them
Ya, but Ben threw alot last year and it got him 23 INT's. I don't see how throwing more will help def. since were a run based team.
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:55 PM   #22
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This, "don't throw too much or we lose argument" is kind of a chicken and the egg argument. Did throwing more really make us into be a poor team; or did we throw more because we were a poor team to begin with and thus were usually always behind?

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Old 08-22-2007, 02:50 PM   #23
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Ya, but Ben threw alot last year and it got him 23 INT's. I don't see how throwing more will help def. since were a run based team.
but in Ben's defense he was making very bad decisions and not reading the routes well.. maybe coach tomlin has worked with him on his color blindness this year. he does have a very good arm to throw the ball.
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Why do people assume the Steelers will be pass-happy this year? In truth they're just going to be more balanced and hopefully less predictable.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:46 PM   #25
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hmmm. 2 of 5 years in the affc game. i'll take my shots with an experienced ben as opposed to kordell. after all ben has led us to 2 afcc games in the last 5 years w/o one of the top 5 pqassing attacks in the past 5 years.

what deserves mention is the 95 steelers who had an excellent 2 minute drill and 4 wr set with charles johnson, ernie mills, andre hastings, yancy thigpen, graham and stewart out wide.

if im not mistaken, the steelers scored more points in the final 2 minutes of the half or end of the game than any team that season.

i cant wait to see 4 wide on 3rd and 3 from the 50 and willie hand off to holmes for a 50 yd reverse.
One of the AFCC games Ben won.

I just hope we don't go big with the pass. It just isn't Steelers football.
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how ironic is it that last year indionapolis departed from their throw-first mentality in some of the biggest games they have ever seen and the result was a sb victory?

i remember peyton shaking his head at some of the play calling, but sometimes you step outside of the box and surprise yourself.

on the other hand, if you ignore your history (2003 season) you usually end up looking like a fool.
I think stepping outside of the box is the key thing here. We did it in the 05 playoffs by going pass first in our biggest games. It's not about changing what you do. It's about when/how you do it.
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2003 was also the season where the steelers had only one starter on the O-line play in every game.

the problem during the kordell era was the fact that kordell was a WR, not a QB. but for some odd reason the steelers thought he was one.

it all comes down to a balanced attack. enough said :)
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but in Ben's defense he was making very bad decisions and not reading the routes well.. maybe coach tomlin has worked with him on his color blindness this year. he does have a very good arm to throw the ball.
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Wow Ed, you just put that together,,, Congratulations on pointing out a statistic so unbelievably obvious that even the national media talked about it last season.
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I know that there is a brand of Steelers Football that we have all grown to know and love and that we all HATE to see change. The thing is...IT HAS CHANGED... We have a new coach for the first time in 15 years. This is for all intents and purposes a new team... I think that if we have the weapons to use...USE THEM. I think that Ben is taking the game WAY more seriously than he did in the past. He is realizing that he actually has to practice and review his play from week-to-week. I think that he is one year more mature, and he has the weapons to throw to.

Why not open it up a bit and let them fly. As long as we can have the run as balancing act to keep everyone else guessing, I see it as a WIN!

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