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Old 08-24-2007, 09:46 AM   #31
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Default Re: Offense not as good as we think it is going to be?

Watching other preseason games from all around the league just convinces me even more that THE PRESEASON SHOWS US NOTHING.

And as far as the offense under Bruce Arians, I keep thinking this: The year he was Cleveland's offensive coordinator, they lit it up and moved the ball up and down the field like crazy and scored like crazier. And that was a far less talented team than this year's Steelers. So this years Steelers should be able to run wild under Arians.

That's my logic.
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:18 PM   #32
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Scores don't matter in preseason but you have to take something from the level of performance of the 1st teamers - otherwise, why would they even bother playing the games?

It surely isn't to audition a bunch of players who'll go back to the regular jobs once the season starts.

Coaches dont want to to see complicated play calling, but they do want the team to execute the fundamentals of the game - blocking is a fundamental.

I was p*ssed that the Patriots O-line played so poorly against Tennessee - whatever the situation you let your franchise QB take that many hits in one half of a football game.

The same goes for the Steelers, even if the guys are being shuffled round it doesn't excuse poor execution and the consistent inability to punch it in from inside the 5.
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The same goes for the Steelers, even if the guys are being shuffled round it doesn't excuse poor execution and the consistent inability to punch it in from inside the 5.
i take solice in the fact that gary russel was able to punch it in on second effort, regardless if the refs blew their 2nd goal line call of the weekend. and of course defenses arent gonna roll over to allow you to consistantly punch it in, either. i wont worry too much until i see the actual goal line offense on the field.
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i take solice in the fact that gary russel was able to punch it in on second effort, regardless if the refs blew their 2nd goal line call of the weekend. and of course defenses arent gonna roll over to allow you to consistantly punch it in, either. i wont worry too much until i see the actual goal line offense on the field.
How many times did they get inside the 5 though?

4? 5?

Im not trying to be over critical, its just that people seem to want to believe that preseason games mean absolutely nothing.
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Why is it that we beat this same drum every year? The pre season shows us nothing. It is simply a way to evaluate the young talent on your team. No game planning, no playbook (beyond vanilla), no starters for most of the game.


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Old 08-24-2007, 02:28 PM   #36
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The offensive line will improve upon last season because they are not as bad as they played in '06. The preseason shake and bake tactics have made things look worse than they actually are. Starks is not out of the running for RT starter. Colon is a year away from being the answer.

Nate Washington is one of the best #3s in the league production wise and will only get better with experience. Holmes is going to be the spark that Ward used to be for the passing game. He will allow Ward to move around and Ward will be even more effective. Young and Baker are not on the 53. Willie Reid is your 5th WR and could push Wilson for #4 later in the year.

Running back, after Willie, is interesting. Dookie is on the squad. Barlow is cut. I believe Kreider is here another year. Haynes, Russell and Davis are fighting for two spots on the 53. I think it will be Haynes and Russell with Russell taking up Staley's job of modeling the lastest in athletic wear fashions until Haynes gets injured again.

This is not a new offense. There is not a new play book. Arians has tweaked things per his style and allowed Ben some input. If anything, the scheme and terminology has been simplified.

The evolution of the offense began last year and Ben choked on it until too late. He had plenty of help from his team mates.

If Ben can improve his reads and ball protection and learn to trust those around him, this offense will be fine.

The Steelers are still going to feature the run with Parker. If Ben progresses as he should the passing game will be electric.

Per the model Tony has mentioned, the Steelers offense should be a "pick your poison" type of unit. I'll say by week 7, and the rough stretch of the schedule, the Steelers will be able to beat most teams with whatever they are given.

Load the box up and Ben will go over top. Drop 5 or 6 or more and see Willie run. No matter what you had better cover sideline to side line because the Steelers are friggin' fast.
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