Cope's Rant

Counselor · 09-07-2007, 09:18 AM

Did anyone hear Myron Cope on the DVE morning show this morning? He went on a huge rant about Bruce Arians and "what he is doing to the team."

He started by saying that Arians had "humiliated" Krieder, because Arains let it be leaked that Krieder might get cut, then (after he makes the team) he's not starting him.

Then Cope went on to say how the three tight end set won't work---and all this new-fangled (my word not his) passing won't work. Then he said if it does work its only because Ben Roethlisberger is the QB. He also said Ben has the most "natural" talent of any QB in the league.

Cope mainly kept the blame to Arians, but a couple of times he threw in the: "and what's Tomlin doing letting Arians make all these changes."

I listened for about 10 minutes then had to go into work. Anyone hear the rest of it?

Jim and Randy just kinda sat in stunned silence, then tried to change the topic.

It was actually quite funny in that uncomfortable---I can't believe he's saying that---kind of way.

rog · 09-07-2007, 09:23 AM

I'm giving Arians the benefit of the doubt here because he had the browns offense playing well enough to get to the playoffs a few years back I don't want to say he is a miricle worker or anything like that but that is impresive...lol

***Atlanta Dan*** · 09-07-2007, 09:26 AM

Wish I could have heard it

Myron is to the stage of life where you do not care what someone thinks

If Myron thinks Ben is the best natural talent in the league then arguably he should be doing more than 2 handoffs and a chuck & duck on 3rd down.

I do not want a repeat of 2003, but the Cowher I-formation grind it out strategy will not get this team deep into the playoffs with the current personnel.

Edman · 09-07-2007, 09:55 AM

Someone says: "We should throw the ball more and become more balanced."

What Conservative Steeler fans hear: "We're going to be Air Coryell II"

C..Steeler fans: We don't want no sissy O! Smashmouth all the way! Fire Tomlin! Fire Arians! Cut Willie Parker! He's too small!

shutdown · 09-07-2007, 10:22 AM

What the heck does Arians have against Kreider? There is obviously something going on there.

Arians better change his attitude soon because if all these circus changes prove to be devistating he is going to hear about it, ALOT.

Counselor · 09-07-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlanta Dan

Wish I could have heard it

Myron is to the stage of life where you do not care what someone thinks

If Myron thinks Ben is the best natural talent in the league then arguably he should be doing more than 2 handoffs and a chuck & duck on 3rd down.

I do not want a repeat of 2003, but the Cowher I-formation grind it out strategy will not get this team deep into the playoffs with the current personnel.

Myron's never had much in the way of an "internal sensor" and it just decreases more with age. He went way overboard this morning though. I see no reason to say that Krieder was "humilated" ---certainly no more than Okobi or Haynes or Alan Faneca (best guard in the league who is not getting resigned.)

Reading between the lines, I would say Myron might have a problem with the new coaching staff.

RoethlisBURGHer · 09-07-2007, 10:41 AM

Wow.

I don't have a problem with Arians balanced offense philosophy. It'll keep them from putting 8-9 in the box on 1st and 2nd down to stop the run, and then drop everyone into coverage on 3rd down to take away the pass on 3rd and long.

Also, Arians has said that he isn't going pass crazy and the spread/3 TE offense will create more holes for Parker. Willie Parker is a speed back with a little bit of power (at times). You try to get him to the edge, to open space. Running him up the gut 25-30 times a game won't do anything.

I am willing to give this new offense a try. If it doesn't work, they try something else. If it works, we're all the more dangerous because of it.

GeneralRobinson · 09-07-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Counselor

Then he said if it does work its only because Ben Roethlisberger is the QB. He also said Ben has the most "natural" talent of any QB in the league.

Hmmmmm. So if a team has the most natually talented quarterback in the NFL, wouldn't it make sense to design an offense with more passing?

rbryan · 09-07-2007, 11:01 AM

I wouldn't put too much thought into anything he has to say. He never was much of an X's and O's guy to begin with, let alone now. Its just sad to even listen to him. Shame on WDVE for even putting him on the air. Cope retired for a reason.

Counselor · 09-07-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rbryan

I wouldn't put too much thought into anything he has to say. He never was much of an X's and O's guy to begin with, let alone now. Its just sad to even listen to him. Shame on WDVE for even putting him on the air. Cope retired for a reason.

He was on the air to promote a new interactive game---called "tripple yoi" or something. I wouldn't blame DVE for putting him on the air.

09-07-2007, 09:18 AM	#1
Counselor Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 557 Member Number: 5075 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cope's Rant Did anyone hear Myron Cope on the DVE morning show this morning? He went on a huge rant about Bruce Arians and "what he is doing to the team." He started by saying that Arians had "humiliated" Krieder, because Arains let it be leaked that Krieder might get cut, then (after he makes the team) he's not starting him. Then Cope went on to say how the three tight end set won't work---and all this new-fangled (my word not his) passing won't work. Then he said if it does work its only because Ben Roethlisberger is the QB. He also said Ben has the most "natural" talent of any QB in the league. Cope mainly kept the blame to Arians, but a couple of times he threw in the: "and what's Tomlin doing letting Arians make all these changes." I listened for about 10 minutes then had to go into work. Anyone hear the rest of it? Jim and Randy just kinda sat in stunned silence, then tried to change the topic. It was actually quite funny in that uncomfortable---I can't believe he's saying that---kind of way.

09-07-2007, 09:23 AM	#2
rog Starter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: i live in bellwood pa near altoona pa Posts: 414 Gender: Male Member Number: 5902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cope's Rant I'm giving Arians the benefit of the doubt here because he had the browns offense playing well enough to get to the playoffs a few years back I don't want to say he is a miricle worker or anything like that but that is impresive...lol __________________ GO STEELERS!!!

09-07-2007, 09:26 AM	#3
*Atlanta Dan* Resigned Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,919 Member Number: 728 Thanks: 74 Thanked 202 Times in 130 Posts	Re: Cope's Rant Wish I could have heard it Myron is to the stage of life where you do not care what someone thinks If Myron thinks Ben is the best natural talent in the league then arguably he should be doing more than 2 handoffs and a chuck & duck on 3rd down. I do not want a repeat of 2003, but the Cowher I-formation grind it out strategy will not get this team deep into the playoffs with the current personnel.

09-07-2007, 09:55 AM	#4
Edman Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,358 Gender: Male Member Number: 3261 Thanks: 35 Thanked 89 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Cope's Rant Someone says: "We should throw the ball more and become more balanced." What Conservative Steeler fans hear: "We're going to be Air Coryell II" C..Steeler fans: We don't want no sissy O! Smashmouth all the way! Fire Tomlin! Fire Arians! Cut Willie Parker! He's too small!

09-07-2007, 10:22 AM	#5
shutdown Draft Prospect Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 69 Member Number: 1445 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cope's Rant What the heck does Arians have against Kreider? There is obviously something going on there. Arians better change his attitude soon because if all these circus changes prove to be devistating he is going to hear about it, ALOT. __________________

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09-07-2007, 10:41 AM	#7
RoethlisBURGHer Living Legend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Clowns Town,Ohio Posts: 5,941 Member Number: 370 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cope's Rant Wow. I don't have a problem with Arians balanced offense philosophy. It'll keep them from putting 8-9 in the box on 1st and 2nd down to stop the run, and then drop everyone into coverage on 3rd down to take away the pass on 3rd and long. Also, Arians has said that he isn't going pass crazy and the spread/3 TE offense will create more holes for Parker. Willie Parker is a speed back with a little bit of power (at times). You try to get him to the edge, to open space. Running him up the gut 25-30 times a game won't do anything. I am willing to give this new offense a try. If it doesn't work, they try something else. If it works, we're all the more dangerous because of it. __________________ Congrats to the 2009 Stanley Cup Champion Pittsburgh Penguins

09-07-2007, 11:01 AM	#9
rbryan Team President Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Maui by way of New Brighton PA Posts: 2,030 Member Number: 5196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cope's Rant I wouldn't put too much thought into anything he has to say. He never was much of an X's and O's guy to begin with, let alone now. Its just sad to even listen to him. Shame on WDVE for even putting him on the air. Cope retired for a reason.

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