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Old 09-13-2007, 07:30 PM   #21
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Oh yeah....

It may get 60, 65 percent superbowl ratings...

I think almost every fan of every team is now going to watch to see what the Pats can do when they don't have their hands in teh cookie jar.
I was watching anyway, but I'll pay more attention now. I wonder if I can trade my Patriots players in fantasy before Sunday?
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:30 PM   #22
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Thats a very good point.

As Atlanta Dan (I think) pointed out - sports needs its good guy/bad guy match ups - everyone loves LT (I still think he is great despite his outburst after the Divisional game last year) and everyone hates the Patriots - well slightly more than they used to anyways.

We'll see how this shakes out sunday.
I think we are all in agreement... that this bodes really well for the NFL as a whole...

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Old 09-13-2007, 07:31 PM   #23
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I was watching anyway, but I'll pay more attention now. I wonder if I can trade my Patriots players in fantasy before Sunday?
I wasn't dead set on it... I am now. I really want to see what will happen.
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:33 PM   #24
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you have "sources"????

but yeah, theres no way the game will be forfeited. theres no precedent for that (even though theres no precedent for this type of cheating).

jets fans are on crack if they think they will be the beneficiary of all of this.

i agree that a fine of belichick is pointless and a salary cap reduction would probably be a good way of evening things out, although im sure theres ways to circumvent that by just pushin players salaries into the future. plus it hits them next year and not now.

that is why a suspension makes the most sense. it punishes them NOW for infractions committed NOW.

any of the 3 penalties alone mean practically nothing. all 3 together send a distinct message. now is where we really see if goodell is wearing the pants...

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If warranted, suspension does make the most sense - if Goodell really wants to punish the Patriots and BB, and be seen to be doing it aswell, thats what he will be looking at.

The salary cap/ draft picks stuff could be fiddly - and will potentally affect the players in next years draft calss, the orderc teams pick in and therefore the amount of money they should be paid.

If Belichick is the one flouting the rules so brazenly, then its he who needs to be punished (though of course the team will aswell - missing its HC for the length of the suspension)

ps. My sources aren't happy that I even divulged their existence - these guys took a great risk to give me the inside line on this scandal.
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the penalty is in.

if they make the playoffs they lose their 2008 1st round pick.

if not they lose the 2nd and 3rd

belichick fined half a mil and the team fined a quarter mil.

slap on the wrist.

(oops.. as per nfl networks breaking news)
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I was watching anyway, but I'll pay more attention now. I wonder if I can trade my Patriots players in fantasy before Sunday?
I reckon you can.

Moss/Stallworth for Burress/Muhammed

Or.

Moss for Burress straight up.

Give me the word and i'll fax my offer.
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I think they should be stripped of the first and second round draft picks of the 2008 NFL Rookie Draft. I am fine with Bellichick being fined $500,000 that cannot be paid by Patriot's owner Robert Kraft. The only problem is, the NFL can't do anything if after 'Chick pays the fine...Kraft cuts a $500,000 personal check to him.
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the penalty is in.

if they make the playoffs they lose their 2008 1st round pick.

if not they lose the 2nd and 3rd

belichick fined half a mil and the team fined a quarter mil.

slap on the wrist.

(oops.. as per nfl networks breaking news)
Wow.

Yeah I see that on the NFL frontpage - thats an odd proviso regarding our performance/weight of penalty.

So we are back down to 1 1st round pick in 2008 then?

We'd have only traded it for a 2009 1st rounder anyway!
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the penalty is in.

if they make the playoffs they lose their 2008 1st round pick.

if not they lose the 2nd and 3rd

belichick fined half a mil and the team fined a quarter mil.

slap on the wrist.

(oops.. as per nfl networks breaking news)
The fines are bullshit - Maybe Pacman should ask why he should not just pay a fine

If Gene Upshaw had not been castrated I assume he might have something to say about this - if I belonged to the NFLPA this would confirm the union is toothless and Goodell is the owners' cabin boy

If Belichick leaves in the next year or two the loss of the draft choice certainly won't break his heart.
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:44 PM   #30
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I would of liked to see a 1-2 game suspension added too that, but I think its acceptable.

I didn't like the forfeit idea, the tape was confiscated before the Pats could use it and it could give the Jets an advantage in the Wild Card race.
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