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Old 09-15-2007, 03:37 PM   #21
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"Bruce and I go up after practice on Fridays, I sit up there and we go over the whole game plan, 'this is what I like, this is what I don't like,'" Roethlisberger said. "We do it a couple times a week.

"The plays that we scored on were all plays that I told him I liked."

Roethlisberger is also being asked to change the blocking assignments for the offensive line at the line of scrimmage when necessary and encouraged to call audibles for the first time this season.

He estimated that stuff came up about 10-plus times in Cleveland.

He wasn't required to deal with those added responsibilities more often because the Steelers never went to their no-huddle package because they produced big plays as opposed to sustained drives and because he and Arians were apparently in agreement as to how to attack the Browns.
Funny... When I read it, what I took out of it was more of... Arians is a good OC... he puts the plan together... then comes and talks to me about it. We focus on what I am comfortable with as a QB, and discard somethings I know I can't do or am not comfortable doing (note: those are probably many of the things that led to an interception) instead of forcing those plays on me. All 4 scores last week were plays I told Arians I was comfortable with.


And really... I don't see how it should be any different, or how he should say anything different.
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:41 PM   #22
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I'm tired of this real team talk.....I guess people forget that the Steelers struggled against the Browns last year in Cleveland?...It took a late TD for the Steelers to beat the Browns...lol

The Steelers were supposed to blow out the Browns and they did that last week......
the 1st 5 games of our season will be looked at as nothing more than an extension of the preseason.

we had a league best record in preseason but all we hear is "yeah but, its preseason".

we can have a league best record after the 1st 5 games and all we will hear is "yeah but, its against inferior competition".

these are looked at as warm up games because of the steelers high expectations, so it is important that we keep on blowing out the teams were supposed to blow out.

the 1st loss will be brutal. which leads to ben. he needs to take the approach that coaches coach and players play. im happy for him and the team that he is given more input, responsibility, and feels more comfortable. its good for the team.

but he is setting himself up for alot of scrutiny the 1st time the team loses when he throws 2 int's. whats the point in having the media scrutinizing him for calling out of a play or blaming arians for calling a dumb play. why would he even want to mess with the media asking ben

"was the interception you threw in the 4th quarter your fault or arians?" or "why didnt you check out of that play?" etc.
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:43 PM   #23
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That was last year, though.

The Browns were freaking awful. How many of our drives started in their territory?

How bad were they at picking up the blitz?

How many first downs did they get?

True, we may have played absolutely stellar, but I have to take our performance with a grain of salt... The Browns suck.
All I was trying to say the Steelers are supposed to blow out the Browns and they did that....Are the Browns a good team? No not all but I'll take a blow out win the first week in the season anyday...Especially since the Steelers offense didn't play exactly their best and still put up 34 points....A nice way to start the season.....

Back on topic....I agree with you Preacher.......
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:46 PM   #24
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All I was trying to say the Steelers are supposed to blow out the Browns and they did that....Are the Browns a good team? No not all but I'll take a blow out win the first week in the season anyday...Especially since the Steelers offense didn't play exactly their best and still put up 34 points....A nice way to start the season.....

Back on topic....I agree with you Preacher.......
Aye.

I hear you, man.

If the things that we disagree on this season are if the Steelers should have killed their opponents more than they did than I'd say its a good season.

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Aye.

I hear you, man.

If the things that we disagree on this season are if the Steelers should have killed their opponents more than they did than I'd say its a good season.


Too true.
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If they can't be on the same page against the browns..its ganna be a looong season
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:38 PM   #27
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True dat' polly... true dat!!
I like to see all is good so far, but we will see what
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Old 09-15-2007, 06:25 PM   #28
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Some in this forum are just a complete joke....I didn't see anything wrong with what Ben said......lol Whats wrong with a QB wanting to see plays that he likes in a game plan? Plus whats wrong with a QB stating the plays the Steelers scored on are the one he campaigned for? Plus why are some fans always trying to look the negative in something?lol

I think our collective thought should be on the beating the Steelers are going to put on the Bills and not trying to look for something negative every time Ben opens his mouth....lol

No wonder why Terry Bradshaw stayed away for so long with constant B.S. by some fans...lol
Sorry for the tone of my post - thanks for making me see the light

I am glad Cowher and Whiz are gone, since they did not let Ben comment on the play calling, refused to let him work overtime at the practice facilities, and told him to throw the ball into coverage last year rather than throw it away.

I am glad Ben responded to Tomlin saying his new role in the offense was being overemphasized by saying Tomlin did not know what went on last year, given that Tomlin does not have Ben's work ethic or attention to detail and obviously would not have asked the assistants or management who have remained how anything was handled under the old regime - Tomlin should just ask Ben how things went on last year since we know Ben will never shade the facts

By criticizing Ben I obviously am a secret Ravens/Pats fans - true fans only criticize players when they lose

In all seriousness - we just disagree on this

As I said in my original post, I simply do not like it when jocks (or attorneys, or doctors, or salespeople, or other individuals) need to let you know how hard they are working, how much they are contributing, and feel some need to keep taking shots at ex-colleagues (e.g. - "We joked last year, we'd talk to 'Whiz' (former offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt) and tell him what we (as quarterbacks) liked and didn't like," Roethlisberger said. "And the plays we liked never got called and the plays we didn't like always were called")

Speak well of your co-workers and let them be the source of praise for your work.
Hopefully Ben will get the message that Tomlin apparently wants him to cool it on all the comments about his role with the offense.
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Through my pastoral instincts at detecting Satanic messages backmasked into heavliy metal, I have noticed a few discreet messages in AD's last post. To keep this forum safe, let me expose those now!

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Sorry for the tone of my post - thanks for making me see the light (Careful, there is a hint of sarcasm here !)

I am glad Cowher and Whiz are gone (backmasked into this sentence... Cuz my team.. The CLEVELAND BROWNS WILL GET HIM!) since they did not let Ben comment on the play calling, refused to let him work overtime at the practice facilities, and told him to throw the ball into coverage last year rather than throw it away

I am glad Ben responded to Tomlin saying his new role in the offense was being overemphasized by saying Tomlin did not know what went on last year, given that Tomlin does not have Ben's work ethic or attention to detail and obviously would not have asked the assistants or management who have remained how anything was handled under the old regime - Tomlin should just ask Ben how things went on last year since we know Ben will never shade the facts

By criticizing Ben I obviously am a secret Ravens/Pats fans - true fans only criticize players when they lose. (see, this is a classic move. Openly state the truth in a sacrastic manner, to throw off those not as adept at backmasking and subtle truths! Don't worry guys and gals... I am on it!)

In all seriousness - we just disagree on this (WOW... If you read carefully, you will see... We just disagree... because I am a RAVENS Fan. Now, I don't know why he switched from being a Browns fan... Maybe he wasn't a diehard fan? Next, he will be rooting for the Texans!)

As I said in my original post, I simply do not like it when jocks (or attorneys, or doctors, or salespeople, or other individuals) need to let you know how hard they are working, how much they are contributing, and feel some need to keep taking shots at ex-colleagues (e.g. - "We joked last year, we'd talk to 'Whiz' (former offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt) and tell him what we (as quarterbacks) liked and didn't like," Roethlisberger said. "And the plays we liked never got called and the plays we didn't like always were called") (See... He KNEW I was on to him.. and didnt want any of you to know just HOW HARD I worked to pick this stuff apart!)

Speak well of your co-workers and let them be the source of praise for your work.
Hopefully Ben will get the message that Tomlin apparently wants him to cool it on all the comments about his role with the offense.

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but I have to take our performance with a grain of salt... The Browns suck.
How dare you? You haven't heard? We already won the Super Bowl. You must be one of those untrue fans....
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