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Old 09-22-2007, 08:11 AM   #11
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What the flip????? This article suggests they were destroyed so Belly couldn't use them again!!!


While it’s unclear why the tapes were destroyed, it’s likely the league wanted to make sure they wouldn’t be put to any use again by Belichick, who claims he misinterpreted the rules.

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Yeah, as if copies haven't been made This is like telling Chris Henry, "Heyyyyy Chris, promise me you won't get in trouble again. MMMMMMKAYYYY????"
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NFL destroys material from Pats
League got tapes, likely will not add to punishment

NEW YORK (AP) -- The NFL has received and destroyed all materials it requested from the New England Patriots concerning videotaping of opponents' sidelines, and a league spokesman said the team was unlikely to face any further sanctions.

An NFL statement Thursday said the team was in compliance with a request for tapes and other documents.

"The Patriots have fully cooperated and complied with the requirements of the commissioner's decision," the statement said. "All tapes, documents and other records relating to this matter were turned over to the league office and destroyed, and the Patriots have certified in writing that no copies or other records exist.

"League policies on in-game videotaping and audio communication will continue to be closely monitored and strictly enforced with all 32 teams."

Last week, Patriots coach Bill Belichick was fined $500,000 by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and the team was fined $250,000 for violating a league rule that prohibits clubs from using a video camera on the sidelines for any purpose -- including recording signals relayed to opposing players on the field. New England also must forfeit a first-round draft pick next year if it makes the playoffs or a second- and third-rounder if it doesn't.

In response to the NFL statement, Belichick on Friday said: "My reactions are on how we're doing against Buffalo. That's all I'm thinking about."

Asked if there could be additional penalties, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told the Boston Herald: "I don't expect anything further."

A spokesman for the Patriots, Stacey James, said the team was satisfied the case was closed and was focused on Sunday's game against the Buffalo Bills.

A video camera aimed at Jets coaches was confiscated from a Patriots employee during the first quarter of the team's 38-14 win Sept. 9 over New York. Jets coach Eric Mangini has had a cool relationship with Belichick since leaving as Patriots defensive coordinator after the 2005 season.

When asked if the Patriots' defensive players also used microphones or other recording devices in their shoulder pads to pick up Jets audibles, Aiello said: "We have no evidence to support that claim."
Maybe they didn't ask for the evidense or didn't even go there to look for it. Just called up and asked "Hey Bill your not also recording line signals are you?" and he said "Heavens no, why woulld you ask me that?" They replied "Just wondering that's all. Thanks for your help, great game Sunday, Oh yeh, you made all the copies you need right?" They asked "What copies? We gave you everything. Bye" Bill replied. This came from a fly on the wall.

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Cover-up in Patriots case?
Thursday, September 27, 2007
By Gene Collier, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Twelve days is what the National Football League figured to be the length of your attention span on what has become known as the Bill Belicheat affair, 12 days from righteous indignation to final news cycle. But the truncated Belicheat Tapes timeline, from confiscation to unexplained destruction, might be entering a second phase.

Swift justice is revered only in its literal sense, after all. Not if it is long on swift and short on justice.

The league can pretend all it wants that videogate is yesterday's news, but a lot of its own employees, in board rooms, video dens and locker rooms coast to coast, definitely would have appreciated a more thorough airing of the matter, specifically regarding two salient questions:

If the league first told the Patriots Sept. 13 it wanted all tapes illegally procured and all notes related to them, why did New England not comply until Sept. 17?

What turned up on those tapes that forced their complete destruction on or before Sept. 20?

"I have no idea, but I'd hoped they'd used those tapes to teach other organizations about what they did," Steelers wideout Hines Ward was saying yesterday. "I don't know why you would throw them in the fire. A lot of players are wondering about what happened.

"That's kind of like Area 51. Who knows what's happening there?"

Here's why some remain curious a week after the league announced the destruction of all materials related to the Patriot acts. On the night of the 16th, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, who should have suspended Belichick rather than just fine the coach and the organization and take away a draft pick or two, appeared live on NBC with Bob Costas. This was the night before the Patriots complied with the order to turn over the evidence.

Costas asked Goodell if he would increase the penalties if the evidence contained more of what the league suspected.

"If I find out newer information that is different from what I have," Goodell said, "then, yes, absolutely."

In other words, Goodell was prepared to approach the tapes and notes as part of an ongoing investigation. Then the evidence arrived. Within 72 hours, all of it was destroyed.

Short of revealing that the Patriots' illegal taping had in some way impacted 1-to-3 Super Bowls, what conceivably appeared on the tapes to merit their near immediate destruction? Maybe it wasn't short of that at all.

In direct e-mails to ESPN's Gregg Easterbrook this week, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello denied there was evidence of the Patriots cheating in the Super Bowl in response to Easterbrook's direct questions. But the other plausible explanation for destroying evidence, so that it could not be used again by the Patriots (what -- after a daring midnight break-in at the league's Park Avenue headquarters?) or by someone in the league office with access to it, someone who might wind up working for one of the 32 clubs, are not anywhere near as compelling.

Can you imagine the outcry had David Stern quietly destroyed the evidence gathered in the case against former NBA referee Tim Donaghy four days after going on TV to pledge a full investigation?

Which brings us to Salient Question No. 3.

Since the Patriots have won three Super Bowls, and since their considerable slice of recent NFL glory is already tainted to whatever degree its consumers deem appropriate, and since there would be an intense interest on the part of no less than three of its member clubs -- Super Bowl runners-up Carolina, St. Louis and Philadelphia -- as to the specifics of the actual breadth of Patriot turpitude, wouldn't it serve the league's better purposes to state definitively that the evidence showed no Super Bowl shenanigans whatsoever?

Unless, of course, the league cannot honestly say such a thing.

"My imagination races," Steelers linebacker Larry Foote said yesterday. "You could definitely win some big games with that style of offense if you had the defensive calls. If you know what a team is doing, that's not just an advantage, that's total domination. Can you imagine if Dick LeBeau knew what plays were gonna be run?"

For the record, New England did not totally dominate in any of its Super Bowl victories, winning by three points in all three games. Then again, the slimmest of margins can be the result of some fat advantage.

"That would be a tragedy for our sport," Ward said. "Especially to the Super Bowl. It would be a devastating blow."

Indeed it would, and I guess you're just supposed to hope that is not the reason all evidence of the Patriots' cheating is no more.

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So happy that they are , cheaters explains our 16-2 year why we couldn't get through that game. rediculous.
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Maybe we should do like the guy that got Bonds' homerun ball, and and take a vote on weather the patsies' Lombardies should have an * engraved on them.
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