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Old 10-13-2005, 07:55 PM   #11
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Default Re: Congratulations, Penn State

What I am kind of pissed at is where are all the JoePa critics now? I heard people screaming bloody murder that he all of a sudden forgot how to coach.

Chico in the Post-Gazette points out that the www.joepamustgo.com website is now no longer online....too funny. Damn bandwagon fans...I hate em.
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Old 10-13-2005, 11:44 PM   #12
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I'm not a Penn State fan (Irish, for me), but it's really nice to see Penn State doing so well. I thought Ohio State had this in the bag, and am now really impressed. Congrats!
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Old 10-14-2005, 07:26 AM   #13
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You know Hammer, I was starting to question JoePa myself but I'm not a bandwagon fan. Obviously the story of Williams coming to State because of Paterno changed my mind a little. I'm glad to see he's starting freshman this year and that he has picked a RB. I was growing sick of PSU running a tandem (except LJ's year) at RB. My reason I criticized Paterno was the lack of talent we've had the past few years. Seems like he was getting killed in recruiting.

Obviously something has changed. Maybe the D or the freshman have affected the attitude of the whole team.

And I have to say it, Chico sucks. I hate reading his crap.
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Old 10-14-2005, 02:33 PM   #14
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You know Hammer, I was starting to question JoePa myself but I'm not a bandwagon fan. Obviously the story of Williams coming to State because of Paterno changed my mind a little. I'm glad to see he's starting freshman this year and that he has picked a RB. I was growing sick of PSU running a tandem (except LJ's year) at RB. My reason I criticized Paterno was the lack of talent we've had the past few years. Seems like he was getting killed in recruiting.

Obviously something has changed. Maybe the D or the freshman have affected the attitude of the whole team.

And I have to say it, Chico sucks. I hate reading his crap.

I kind of like Chico...what makes you say that? He has some insights into the team that I hadn't considered before...


The thing with JoePa was that just because he had a bad year or two, it isn't like all of a sudden he forgot everything. Was I frustrated that he wouldn't start freshmen at skill positions? SOmetimes. But Joe has always been traditional. That's what makes Joe...well...Joe. I love the fact that he emphasizes scholastics over football (unlike some coaches out there...ahem, bowden...). He's turned down pro jobs with the Patriots and the Steelers to stay at PSU. He's donated millions to the school. He has a wing of the Library named after him. He has energy and spunk, that's never left. As he said himself, they were only a few players and plays away from having winning seasons the past few years. Ah?but what do people know?wins cure all things?

People were saying he was out of touch in the 70's for Pete's sake. Any time he loses from here on out, he will be criticized that way, regardless if it's true or not.

Who would you rather have...Walt Harris in his 40's or Joe Paterno in his late 70's?

I know who i would take...
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Old 10-14-2005, 08:37 PM   #15
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Again, I'm trying to be sensitive to how good PSU's defense is, but with Holmes and Ginn out there, OSU should be throwing up at least 20-24 points against even the best defenses. I just don't think Smith is seeing the whole field, and he's missing open receivers. I don't know that Zwick is the answer, but I'm not sure I understand Tessel's philosophy. Obviously, Smith was not getting the job done, why not brink in Zwick off the bench and see if he couldn't spark the Offense?
Suit, did you like the outcome of the texas game? Thought not , neither did I. How in the world are you going to build consistansy if you do the Jackson-Germaine thing all year.
Leave them alone and they'll be fine. Continuity and leadership are what's important for this position and unfortunately the continuity is still lacking but every player I've heard interviewed so far has said they want to follow Smith because fo the fire they see in him and the type of leader he is.
IMO it would be INSANE to keep switching out, ridiculous as a matter of fact.
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Old 10-15-2005, 07:35 AM   #16
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The Stanley Jackson/Joe Germaine thing was entirely different than what I was suggesting. That was Cooper, and he played Jackson because he was a senior, that was why they alternated. It should also be noted the end result of the Germaine/Jackson thing was not all that bad. We lost 1 game that year to MSU that we would have won if Cooper would have thrown a pass or two during the last drive. Germaine came off the bench to lead a game winning drive against Jake Plummer's ASU team and we ended up #2 and probably would have annihilated Tennessee for the National Championship had we not lost that stupid Spartans game.


Tressel (supposedly) alternated Smith/Zwick in the Texans game because Smith was so rusty, so I guess that's at least a viable excuse. I'm in no way shape or form suggesting a "regime change", but when you are playing at a high level, there is nothing wrong with temporarily pulling your starter to try and spark the O...you see it all the time in College and pro ball.

Everything I'm hearing from the players is positive now...a lot of them were saying they were just under too much pressure, and now they can just relax and play football...maybe they are right?

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Hammer,

I just find the Post Gazette so Pro-Pitt that it annoys me. I actually like both teams until I started reading Gazette.com. They've made me hate the Panthers.

Chico has been better lately and he does have some insight.. but he annoys me. Inconsistent. He constantly points out how PSU has fallen from the upper ranks (since 99). But when we pull out a close game against Northwestern (who turns out to be a decent team), his take is - PSU should win, they're much better. Which is it? If we're as bad as he was writing earlier in the year, we should be getting credit for any win. Obviously he's changed his tone now since we're tied for the top of the Big Ten. All of this while Pitt is losing to Ohio and trying to win a conference that's now the equivalent to the MAC.
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Hammer,

I just find the Post Gazette so Pro-Pitt that it annoys me. I actually like both teams until I started reading Gazette.com. They've made me hate the Panthers.

Chico has been better lately and he does have some insight.. but he annoys me. Inconsistent. He constantly points out how PSU has fallen from the upper ranks (since 99). But when we pull out a close game against Northwestern (who turns out to be a decent team), his take is - PSU should win, they're much better. Which is it? If we're as bad as he was writing earlier in the year, we should be getting credit for any win. Obviously he's changed his tone now since we're tied for the top of the Big Ten. All of this while Pitt is losing to Ohio and trying to win a conference that's now the equivalent to the MAC.

True...but his writing and coverage have been good this year. THe story leading up to the OSU game was awesome (either Friday or saturday edition).

I expect the PG to be pro Pitt as that is the home team. I do like CHico better them Sam Ross of the Tribune.
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I can`t believe that we are giving a double digit spread against Wisc, does anyone think that we will win by that much??
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Camp Randall is a tough place to play even a mediocre Wisconsin team, and this is a pretty good Badgers team. They only have one loss, and that was on the road against a surprisingly good Northwestern squad.

I think PSU will win, but any spread bigger than 6 is a teaser...
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