Madden thinks Steelers should have...

ShutDown24 · 10-17-2007, 02:32 PM

Mark Madden stated today on his daily show (ESPN Radio 1250) that he thinks the Steelers should have traded they?re second round pick to Miami for Chris Chambers instead of letting the Chargers get him?

While Madden always seems to underrate the team?s receivers, I tend to agree with him here. We could have put someone on the practice squad (Reid) and had Chambers and Holmes on the outside with Ward in the slot? That would have been something else.

I rarely agree with Mark, but actually do here with this. Thoughts?

Lord Stiller · 10-17-2007, 02:51 PM

I completely disagree

I actually like Chambers even though he has played really bad and dropped a lot of balls this season and last season. But 3 seasons ago, he looked like one of the best in the league.

With that being said, I think a 2nd round pick is too high. A 3rd maybe. We need these early picks to revamp our weak O-line after the season. Plus, I dont know what his contract is but am guessing that Chambers makes a lot of money.

The deal that happened seemed like a good deal for both the Chargers and the Dolphins.

Once again. Mark Madden is a little crazy and underestimates the Steelers. I thought Reche Caldwell was a decent receiver who the Steelers could have signed for the vet minimum (I think the Redskins signed him)

fansince'76 · 10-17-2007, 02:53 PM

Nope - I gotta go by what GoFins11 said in another thread (and I figure he knows more about Chambers than we do being a Dolphins fan) - basically, Chambers has had one great year and is very inconsistent. Why give up a 2nd rounder for something we already have in Nate Washington?

Mosca · 10-17-2007, 02:55 PM

I think the Seattle game showed that we have actually UNDERESTIMATED the quality of our receivers.

I also think that San Diego's 2nd pick next year will be substantially higher in value than ours will be. We might not have gotten him for our 2nd pick (which will be somewhere around #60 or higher).

Remember that Madden's wrestling background means that he operates from the principle that insight is less important than controversy and rhetoric. He doesn't actually believe ANYTHING, he just says whatever he thinks will make people respond. Positive or negative doesn't matter, all that matters is that they respond. It means they are listening, which means he can sell advertising spots.

Tom

***Atlanta Dan*** · 10-17-2007, 03:08 PM

If the Steelers do something, Madden will say they should not have done it

If the Steelers do not do something, Madden will say they should have done it

As Tom says, Mark Madden's job and personal preference is to provoke, not to enlighten

Norv Turner is fighting for his job - Tomlin clearly is not - a #2 pick for Chambers makes sense for the Chargers given their woeful recivers - it does not make sense for a Steelers team that needs that choice for 2008 and beyond

The Duke · 10-17-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fansince'76

Why give up a 2nd rounder for something we already have in Nate Washington?

lol. exactly

Besides not only would a big contract be needed, but the best right now is to work with our young and future receivers

Preacher · 10-17-2007, 03:46 PM

What we DON'T need is a second receiver that will never push to be a number 1. We already have one of those in Cedric...

Ward will be gone in a couple of years. We need to pick up a second receiver with a number one pick the year after next.

next year, we need build our next generation of the O line, especially the left side.

cubanstogie · 10-17-2007, 04:20 PM

My buddy is a Chargers fan and he called me when they acquired Chambers. He was pretty happy. I would have thought 3rd or 4th round pick fair deal. 2nd seems a bit much, I agree they could use that pick for OL , LB or even a WR. Norv coached Chambers before though so he obviously knows what he is getting. Its not like Miami has had anyone to throw to him so his numbers may not tell the whole story. Only time will tell.

cubanstogie · 10-17-2007, 04:22 PM

forgot to mention he makes 5.1 million.

MasterOfPuppets · 10-17-2007, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preacher

next year, we need build our next generation of the O line, especially the left side.

tell it like it is preacher !!!

10-17-2007, 02:32 PM	#1
ShutDown24 Team President Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,125 Gender: Male Member Number: 3997 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Madden thinks Steelers should have... Mark Madden stated today on his daily show (ESPN Radio 1250) that he thinks the Steelers should have traded they?re second round pick to Miami for Chris Chambers instead of letting the Chargers get him? While Madden always seems to underrate the team?s receivers, I tend to agree with him here. We could have put someone on the practice squad (Reid) and had Chambers and Holmes on the outside with Ward in the slot? That would have been something else. I rarely agree with Mark, but actually do here with this. Thoughts? __________________

10-17-2007, 02:53 PM	#3
fansince'76 Living Legend Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 17,069 Member Number: 1984 Thanks: 36 Thanked 87 Times in 53 Posts	Re: Madden thinks Steelers should have... Nope - I gotta go by what GoFins11 said in another thread (and I figure he knows more about Chambers than we do being a Dolphins fan) - basically, Chambers has had one great year and is very inconsistent. Why give up a 2nd rounder for something we already have in Nate Washington?

10-17-2007, 02:55 PM	#4
Mosca Team President Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mountain Top, PA Posts: 2,397 Gender: Male Member Number: 1751 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Madden thinks Steelers should have... I think the Seattle game showed that we have actually UNDERESTIMATED the quality of our receivers. I also think that San Diego's 2nd pick next year will be substantially higher in value than ours will be. We might not have gotten him for our 2nd pick (which will be somewhere around #60 or higher). Remember that Madden's wrestling background means that he operates from the principle that insight is less important than controversy and rhetoric. He doesn't actually believe ANYTHING, he just says whatever he thinks will make people respond. Positive or negative doesn't matter, all that matters is that they respond. It means they are listening, which means he can sell advertising spots. Tom

10-17-2007, 03:08 PM	#5
*Atlanta Dan* Resigned Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,919 Member Number: 728 Thanks: 74 Thanked 202 Times in 130 Posts	Re: Madden thinks Steelers should have... If the Steelers do something, Madden will say they should not have done it If the Steelers do not do something, Madden will say they should have done it As Tom says, Mark Madden's job and personal preference is to provoke, not to enlighten Norv Turner is fighting for his job - Tomlin clearly is not - a #2 pick for Chambers makes sense for the Chargers given their woeful recivers - it does not make sense for a Steelers team that needs that choice for 2008 and beyond

10-17-2007, 03:46 PM	#7
Preacher Water Boy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3 Member Number: 16327 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Madden thinks Steelers should have... What we DON'T need is a second receiver that will never push to be a number 1. We already have one of those in Cedric... Ward will be gone in a couple of years. We need to pick up a second receiver with a number one pick the year after next. next year, we need build our next generation of the O line, especially the left side.

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10-17-2007, 02:51 PM	#2
Lord Stiller Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,230 Member Number: 7087 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Madden thinks Steelers should have... I completely disagree I actually like Chambers even though he has played really bad and dropped a lot of balls this season and last season. But 3 seasons ago, he looked like one of the best in the league. With that being said, I think a 2nd round pick is too high. A 3rd maybe. We need these early picks to revamp our weak O-line after the season. Plus, I dont know what his contract is but am guessing that Chambers makes a lot of money. The deal that happened seemed like a good deal for both the Chargers and the Dolphins. Once again. Mark Madden is a little crazy and underestimates the Steelers. I thought Reche Caldwell was a decent receiver who the Steelers could have signed for the vet minimum (I think the Redskins signed him)

10-17-2007, 04:20 PM	#8
cubanstogie Assistant Coach Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,483 Member Number: 3082 Thanks: 5 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Madden thinks Steelers should have... My buddy is a Chargers fan and he called me when they acquired Chambers. He was pretty happy. I would have thought 3rd or 4th round pick fair deal. 2nd seems a bit much, I agree they could use that pick for OL , LB or even a WR. Norv coached Chambers before though so he obviously knows what he is getting. Its not like Miami has had anyone to throw to him so his numbers may not tell the whole story. Only time will tell.

10-17-2007, 04:22 PM	#9
cubanstogie Assistant Coach Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,483 Member Number: 3082 Thanks: 5 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Madden thinks Steelers should have... forgot to mention he makes 5.1 million.

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