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Old 10-22-2007, 10:59 AM   #21
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Default Re: Is Polamalu overrated?

Why can't you guys look at his question and comments rationally without acting like it's a stupid question. The poster is not saying that Troy sucks, just asking if he is overrated and not in the same class as the better safeties in the league...such as Ed Reed or Adrian Wilson.

The Steelers best defensive day of the year came on the day that Troy didn't play. Did Ryan Clark jump all over the field and freelance it everywhere against Seattle...no. Clark played the conventional style of Troy's position and was knocking the snot out of the opposing WR's.

I don't think that Troy is overrated, but I do think he is caught out of position too much because of his freelancing ways. As with anything else in the NFL, teams scout other teams and find ways to exploit even the best defensive schemes or players. I think other teams have learned how to make Troy less of an impact. He is not making as many big plays the last 22 games as he did in 2005.

Part of what made Troy special was the element of surprise with his game. I'm not sure he is surprising many teams any longer.

I would like to see a more disciplined approach with him at times.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:02 AM   #22
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Default Re: Is Polamalu overrated?

Troy is as disruptive as ANY defensive player in the game. Even when not utilized correctly he still is a factor on EVERY play and coaches have to remind their QB's to TRY and not pay too much attention to him because they will never figure out what he is going to do.

Overrated?....please.

BlastFurnace..great comment about him playing a more disciplined role!! At times I think we waste all that talent when he is used incorrectly
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:05 AM   #23
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Why can't you guys look at his question and comments rationally without acting like it's a stupid question.
Maybe because it's an irrationally stupid question, based on one perceived bad game? Which, BTW, is typical of your average, fair-weathered, "what have you done for me lately" Steelers fan. "Oh, that Polamalu didn't make any big plays today...let's bench him because he STINKS!"

It never ceases to amaze me how fickle Steelers fans are.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:07 AM   #24
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Default Re: Is Polamalu overrated?

Troy is soild and is always around the ball. That guy is far from being overrated. The D just had a bad game.

We just ran into a desperate football team. That can work against you sometimes. Denver made the plays and we didn't. Bring on the bungles.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:09 AM   #25
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Why can't you guys look at his question and comments rationally without acting like it's a stupid question. The poster is not saying that Troy sucks, just asking if he is overrated and not in the same class as the better safeties in the league...such as Ed Reed or Adrian Wilson.

The Steelers best defensive day of the year came on the day that Troy didn't play. Did Ryan Clark jump all over the field and freelance it everywhere against Seattle...no. Clark played the conventional style of Troy's position and was knocking the snot out of the opposing WR's.

I don't think that Troy is overrated, but I do think he is caught out of position too much because of his freelancing ways. As with anything else in the NFL, teams scout other teams and find ways to exploit even the best defensive schemes or players. I think other teams have learned how to make Troy less of an impact. He is not making as many big plays the last 22 games as he did in 2005.

Part of what made Troy special was the element of surprise with his game. I'm not sure he is surprising many teams any longer.

I would like to see a more disciplined approach with him at times.
I agree with what you are saying. But I dont understand if it is Troy's fault of Lebeau's???? It is pointless for Troy to take on offensive linemen, he cant beat them. I see him running around near the line and I keep hoping he drops back and doesnt blitz

Troy is a beast though. IMO he has the fastest closing speed by far in the NFL. I didnt think he played bad last night
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:19 AM   #26
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Troy is soild and is always around the ball. That guy is far from being overrated. The D just had a bad game.

We just ran into a desperate football team. That can work against you sometimes. Denver made the plays and we didn't. Bring on the bungles.
Egads......another desperate footbal team.
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Default Re: Is Polamalu overrated?

polamalu seems to have that gamblers mentality, much like a defensive version of brett favre. sometimes his trickery and gambles leave him a split second away from making the play (live by the sword, die by the sword). i think the thought on him varies around the league. i posted this a few weeks back:

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"Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu have a far greater impact on the game than any corner, and it's not even close," one quarterback on our panel said.

Baltimore's Reed and Pittsburgh's Polamalu were the only safeties who came close to earning spots on the short list of scheme-changing players. Reed came closer than Polamalu.

Quarterbacks marvel at Reed's range and overall playmaking ability. An interception Reed made against San Francisco on Sunday left the 49ers in awe. Reed somehow picked off a short pass to the flanker after lining up in the middle of the field, as if he'd been in two places at once.

Polamalu moves around constantly and blitzes from various angles. He moves around so much that some offensive coordinators tell their quarterbacks not to worry about him too much. They would rather ignore Polamalu than let him bait them into guesswork.

In that sense, safeties can be wild cards to the extent that teams resist making significant changes to their plans for fear of outsmarting themselves.

"Polamalu is an issue in protection while Reed is a factor for the quarterback and where his throws are going," the defensive coordinator said. "He's supposed to be in the post, but he might be jumping a route on the other side of the field."

Two scouts believe even the greatest safeties are generally too far from the football on most plays to force significant changes to game plans. Quarterbacks disagreed, saying Reed could change what they do.

"Ed Reed is special," another GM said. "The guy at Pittsburgh [Polamalu] is really good, not overrated, but there are some holes in his game."
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Default Re: Is Polamalu overrated?

I have to agree with all the people disagreeing with you. Hope we leave that performance right ther in Denver where we brought it. Bye weeks kill us
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:47 PM   #29
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I don't see how he is overrated either.

I did see how freaking fast he can be when he tracked down Brandon Marshall from behind.
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Default Re: Is Polamalu overrated?

I'm not a fair weather fan, I'm a lifelong fan from the 70's. Didn't say to trade him. Its a legit question. My opinion is he is used wrong and out of position alot. This isn't just my opinion from last nights game. I just don't see him making good sound tackles or big plays on a regular basis. I think he'd be a better player and our D would be better if they played him more convetionally. Personally I'd take Reed over Troy as the better safety because he is in position more often then not. Thanks for backing me Blastfurnace.
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