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Old 11-08-2007, 08:12 PM   #1
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Default Global Warming?

I just read where Al Gore said that "Global Warming" is so certain that there is no debate. So I did some research and found this:

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Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’
Intro by Joe D’Aleo, Icecap, CCM

I was privileged to work with John Coleman, the founder of The Weather Channel in the year before it became a reality and then for the first of the 6 years I was fortunate to be the Director of Meteorology. No one worked harder than John to make The Weather Channel a reality and to make sure the staffing, the information and technology was the very best possible at that time. John currently works with KUSI in San Diego. He posts regularly. I am very pleased to present his latest insightful post.

By John Coleman

It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild “scientific” scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmentally conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minute documentary segment.

I do not oppose environmentalism. I do not oppose the political positions of either party. However, Global Warming, i.e. Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you “believe in.” It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming is a non-event, a manufactured crisis and a total scam. I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped. The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway. I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:28 PM   #2
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but what about the melting polar ice stuff, the increased ocean tempertures, the increased cases of skin cancer ?
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well, im no "meteorologist" ( ) but this guy sounds like a nut job w/an agenda.

all i know is that the bengals suck,...

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I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct.
.... so this guy could be right.

(lemme guess... wiping out every square inch of the rain forest wont affect the oxygen supply either)
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well, im no "meteorologist" ( ) but this guy sounds like a nut job w/an agenda.

all i know is that the bengals suck,...

.... so this guy could be right.

(lemme guess... wiping out every square inch of the rain forest wont affect the oxygen supply either)
LOL. It is also funny that many scientists in the 70's said we were starting the next ice age.
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:08 PM   #5
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he does have a point. there is cyclical climate changes on the earth. if this was not true, we would all be hunter gatherers living in an ice age. it just happens that one of the climate cycles happens concurrently with the creation of advanced sciences that try to blame this all on human activity.
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I also remember a report stating that Mars was getting warmer as well...

I guess we should stop sending the land-rovers there!

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/3362746.html

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ge_031208.html

Of course, if these scientists that are making a MINT on the "Global warming crisis" actually cared... they would join with NASA to possibly measure the radiation of the sun over the next 15 years... maybe the earth is getting warmer... and Mars is getting warmer... because the SUN is in ITS OWN HEATING CYCLE?
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I seem to remember the hole in the ozone that is getting bigger, why is it we nologer hear about it? Because it got smaller, that is why. It did not get so large that it was going to cause all this damage but it sold alot of products, didn't it. Big business did it to us again buying off the people that are supposed to protect us, by giving them countless amounts of money. Good old Government at it's best.
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Global Warming and it's possible causes aside, I thought it was very revealing that Al Gore went on the Today Show and essentially said the media is being irresponsible by continuing to offer the contrarian opinion on Global Warming. He is basically saying that since HE proved Global Warming and that it's man-made, the discussion is over and the media should never represent the other side of the issue again. So it's okay for the press to be balance, as long as they only present HIS side.

Nice job, ManBearPig.

Click "View Video Here" under the paragraph

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-fi...e-too-balanced
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1. Climate Science
There are several reasons one can cast doubt on scientific evidence regarding global warming.
First, the “urban heat island effect.” In Which Greenhouse gases have caused rises in temperatures. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, using only peer-reviewed data concluded that urban heat islands caused “at most” 0.05?C of a increase in global average temperatures during the period 1900-1990.
Second, global temperature declines from 1940-1970 disprove, or at least cast doubt on, scientific conclusions with respect to global warming. Since concentrations of greenhouse gases were rising during this period. The fact that global temperatures were falling calls into question the link between greenhouse gas concentrations and temperatures.
The average temperatures declined, at least in the Northern Hemisphere, from 1940-1970.
Third, research after research shows temperature declines during the past century in
places such as Puenta Arenas (Chile), Greenville (South Carolina), Ann Arbor (Michigan), Syracuse (New York) and Navacerrada (Spain).

2. Climate Fad
This raises the second, more interesting argument in that global warming has become a fad embraced by media elites, entertainment moguls, the
scientific establishment and general public. Many assertions are accepted as fact
without critical analysis by the vast majority of those who have views on this issue.
How many of those who hold this view have subjected their opinions to critical analysis? The American media provides a steady drumbeat of scary news on global
warming. It is telling that many critics of global warming are retired professors no longer seeking grants. Too often people use "consensus" as their proof but Michael Crichton said it best:
"Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had.
"Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus.
"Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus."


3. Climate Models
The big global warming numbers come not from "real" measurements but from computer models. These computer models and their output are passionately defended by the modeling clique and frequently derided by empiricists -- but the bottom line is that models make an enormous range of assumptions. Whether all the assumptions, tweaks and parameter adjustments really collectively add up to a realistic representation of the atmosphere is open to some conjecture (current climate models do not model "natural" climatic variation very well), but there is no evidence yet that they can predict the future with any greater certainty than a pack of Tarot cards.

It is interesting that Climatologists & Meteorologists who oppose Al Gores claims have asked him to publicly debate his findings and to date he has refused every single one...but still finds time to tour and spread his pseudo-intellectual money-making rant.
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When these climatological computer models can accurately reverse-predict climate patterns THAT HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED (and to my knowledge, they still can't), then I'll start putting a little more stock in them. There are literally hundreds of millions of variables that affect the Earth's climate. To say that human pollution alone is causing the Earth's temperature to rise is, IMO, ludicrous.
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