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Old 11-09-2007, 03:18 PM   #1
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Default Gotta love this new congress.

I know some of you will say "look at the source", but I did some of my own research and every point he makes is spot on. Looks like we did more harm then good last November.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...l?id=110010843
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:25 PM   #2
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I know some of you will say "look at the source", but I did some of my own research and every point he makes is spot on. Looks like we did more harm then good last November.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...l?id=110010843
I think the dem party will be surprised this election cycle. The problem is, the rep. party will take that as a "mandate" and keep doing what they are doing... and the dems will win again the next cycle.

Oh, where is FDR or Ronald Reagan when you true leaders?
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:00 PM   #3
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Default Re: Gotta love this new congress.

Oh Preacher I would support you to run. We need some honest people in Washington.

Even if your a Steelers fan, nobody's perfect. Now Jesus would have been a Browns fan, he loved the under dog.

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They are full of empty rhetoric and afraid to act. What a dissapointment they have been, to all of us.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:58 PM   #5
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They are full of empty rhetoric and afraid to act. What a dissapointment they have been, to all of us.
As posters who have been around here for a while know, I am no fan of W but the Democrat Congress is so afraid of being portrayed as "soft on terrorism" they act like Charlie Brown knowing Lucy is going to pull the football away if they try to kick it and are afraid to do anything. Suffice it to say I do not see Hillary Clinton as any bold agent of reform.

Of course all politicians answer to their corporate masters, as evidenced by NY Senators Schumer and Clinton refusing to support Wall Street hedge fund operators' earnings being taxed as ordinary income at 33% rather than the lower 15% for capital gains. This link is to an article on Schumer opposing any tax change on this issue after receiving a campaign contribution (aka bribe) from a hedge fund manager

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ail/components

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

But augustashark , I do consider the source of the article

A party that wins control by that narrow margin can quickly see its fortunes reversed when it fails to act responsibly, fails to fulfill its promises, and fails to lead.

Rove is so detached from reality I can only assume he does not know that epitaph can go on his tombstone.

The peerless Peggy Noonan sums up the problems with both parties and the Dems in particular with these 2 column excerpts:

For a few years now I've thought the problem for the Democrats in general but for Mrs. Clinton in particular is not that America is against tax increases. They've seen eight years of big spending, of wars, of spiraling entitlements. They've driven by the mansions of the megarich and have no sympathy for hedge fund/movie producer/cosmetics empire heirs. They sense the system is rigged toward the heavily protected. They sense this because they're not stupid.

The problem for Mrs. Clinton is not that people sense she will raise taxes. It's that they don't think she'll raise them on the real and truly rich. The rich are her friends. They contribute to her, dine with her, have access to her. They have an army of accountants. They're protected even from her.

But she can stick it to others, and in the way of modern liberalism for roughly half a century now one suspects she'll define affluence down. That she would hike taxes on people who make $150,000 a year.

But those "rich"--people who make $200,000 and have two kids and a mortgage and pay local and state taxes in, say, New Jersey--they don't see themselves as rich. Because they're not. They're already carrying too much of the freight.


http://www.opinionjournal.com/column.../?id=110010810

I don't think Mrs. Clinton is the exemplar of a generation, she is the exemplar of a quadrant within a generation, and it is the quadrant the rest of us of that generation do not like. They came from comfort and stability, visited poverty as part of a college program, fashionably disliked their country, and cultivated a bitterness that was wholly unearned. They went on to become investment bankers and politicians and enjoy wealth, power or both.

Mr. Obama should go after them, not a generation but a type, the smug and entitled. No one really likes them
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http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/

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I think the dem party will be surprised this election cycle. The problem is, the rep. party will take that as a "mandate" and keep doing what they are doing... and the dems will win again the next cycle.

Oh, where is FDR or Ronald Reagan when you true leaders?

Now that would be one heck of a ticket.
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First of all... how many of you have children in this forrum? Anyone except for the very high class folks would not a agree with Bush about our Childrens' Health Care. There is No Middle Class folks anymore and that is the reason this country is going straight to Hell. All the rich folks are getting richer while the poor folks are getting poorer. The rich folks get the tax breaks and us real working folks have to pay more..... what is up with that?
George Bush decided to start a war for absolutely no reason other than he just wanted the oil over there.. George Bush will go down as one of the Worst Ever Presidents in the US. Check your stats... under Bush in his rein as our President he has responsibility for 1/3 of the US's debt all time!!!
For a man that calls himself a Christian is Wrong... I guess Jesus would have given all the money to the rich folks too .... what do you think?..... I DOUBT IT!!!
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First of all... how many of you have children in this forrum? Anyone except for the very high class folks would not a agree with Bush about our Childrens' Health Care. There is No Middle Class folks anymore and that is the reason this country is going straight to Hell. All the rich folks are getting richer while the poor folks are getting poorer. The rich folks get the tax breaks and us real working folks have to pay more..... what is up with that?
George Bush decided to start a war for absolutely no reason other than he just wanted the oil over there.. George Bush will go down as one of the Worst Ever Presidents in the US. Check your stats... under Bush in his rein as our President he has responsibility for 1/3 of the US's debt all time!!!
For a man that calls himself a Christian is Wrong... I guess Jesus would have given all the money to the rich folks too .... what do you think?..... I DOUBT IT!!!
I don't love Bush, but you take you’re biased to an extreme. Since the democrats have regained power in this government, there has been NO improvement whatsoever. Looking at the presidential candidates for this upcoming election, the first of which I will be eligible to vote in, I may not even do so. Clinton flip flops as much as John Kerry did, Obama doesn't know which country is which and the media coverage is so democrat based that I hardly can be informed about the Republican candidates.

I will say this, between Hillary and Barack this past year, they’ve done as much image damage to the US as Bush has. If I had to choose between the two it would be a land slide win for Mr. Obama, at least he has the balls to commit to something. (Or any at all, at least so far)

If some of you think it’s bad now, wait until the next gen president gets into office.

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I guess your cable company does not carry Fox News?
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:02 PM   #10
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First of all... how many of you have children in this forrum? Anyone except for the very high class folks would not a agree with Bush about our Childrens' Health Care. There is No Middle Class folks anymore and that is the reason this country is going straight to Hell. All the rich folks are getting richer while the poor folks are getting poorer. The rich folks get the tax breaks and us real working folks have to pay more..... what is up with that?
George Bush decided to start a war for absolutely no reason other than he just wanted the oil over there.. George Bush will go down as one of the Worst Ever Presidents in the US. Check your stats... under Bush in his rein as our President he has responsibility for 1/3 of the US's debt all time!!!
For a man that calls himself a Christian is Wrong... I guess Jesus would have given all the money to the rich folks too .... what do you think?..... I DOUBT IT!!!
WOW There is no middle class? I guess im poor then cause im damn sure not rich. I made about 30 thousand dollars. My dad never made over 40,000, is he rich?
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