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Old 11-11-2007, 12:54 AM   #11
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they should eject players if its in combination with another foul.. late hit, roughing the passer, stuff like that. other than that its going to be stupid if they are ejecting key defenders for accidentally hitting with their helmet. at the speed they play at, you dont have time to perfectly line up your shoulder and lay a blow. its obvious they are doing it because of the recent concussion talk. i guess we'll have to wait and see how they enforce it.
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Remember last year against the Falcons when Ben received that blow to the head that resulted in another concussion?....A flag wasn't even thrown on that one....
Yep, I remember it, but karma's a bitch - the Falcons are a train wreck this year.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:10 AM   #13
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i guess we'll have to wait and see how they enforce it.

Here is one possibility

Pats trail Steelers in a January playoff game - Anthony Smith and Troy then ejected for tackling Tom Terrific.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:40 AM   #14
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Pats trail Steelers in a January playoff game - Anthony Smith and Troy then ejected for tackling Tom Terrific.
That is a very distinct possibility. I can see why they implemented this new rule, but really, football is football folks. If you wanted to play a safer sport, ya shoulda stuck with basketball or baseball. I mean c'mon.
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and we have one more step towards flag football....
OK Chris Speilman!

It's for flagrant hits folks. Everyone here (expect for the dolts from Ohio) know what a flagrant helmet to helmet hit looks like. If you're really sitting here saying this is a bad thing, there are two possibilities:

A. You used to use your helmet as weapon when you played because you didn't have the talent to hang.
B. You never played. football.
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OK Chris Speilman!

It's for flagrant hits folks. Everyone here (expect for the dolts from Ohio) know what a flagrant helmet to helmet hit looks like. If you're really sitting here saying this is a bad thing, there are two possibilities:

A. You used to use your helmet as weapon when you played because you didn't have the talent to hang.
B. You never played. football.
I do not think most of us are applauding helmet to helmet hits - the question is since they do not always call it when it occurs (e.g. - Ben suffers a serious concussion in ATL and there is no flag) and on other occasions call it when the hit is below the helmet level, there is a lot of discretion and margin for error.

Back in the day the Pats lost a playoff game to the Raiders in 1976 on a phantom blow to the head to Stabler that kept a drive alive. Combine that with such sketchy playoff calls as waving off Troy's interception in the Colts playoff game several years ago and you have real potential for an ejection that will perceived as protecting a golden boy QB and his team. If the league wants a suspension, impose that for the next game just as the league imposes fines for flagrant hits only after the league office reviews the video of the play. It is hard enough to get the call right without having to then adjudicate specific intent and decide a penalty was so flagrant it requires immediate ejection..
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I do not think most of us are applauding helmet to helmet hits - the question is since they do not always call it when it occurs (e.g. - Ben suffers a serious concussion in ATL and there is no flag) and on other occasions call it when the hit is below the helmet level, there is a lot of discretion and margin for error.

Back in the day the Pats lost a playoff game to the Raiders in 1976 on a phantom blow to the head to Stabler that kept a drive alive. Combine that with such sketchy playoff calls as waving off Troy's interception in the Colts playoff game several years ago and you have real potential for an ejection that will perceived as protecting a golden boy QB and his team. If the league wants a suspension, impose that for the next game just as the league imposes fines for flagrant hits only after the league office reviews the video of the play. It is hard enough to get the call right without having to then adjudicate specific intent and decide a penalty was so flagrant it requires immediate ejection..
Fair enough, but read back through this thread. You don't get that vibe at all, you get the vibe that some people want to keep this part of football alive.

Folks, helmet to helmet hits are dangerous. I'd rather the NFL err on the side of caution with this one. Besides, the NFL can find other ways to make sure Tom Terrific and his merry band of metrosexuals win another Super Bowl.
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....Tom Terrific and his merry band of metrosexuals....
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OK Chris Speilman!

It's for flagrant hits folks. Everyone here (expect for the dolts from Ohio) know what a flagrant helmet to helmet hit looks like. If you're really sitting here saying this is a bad thing, there are two possibilities:

A. You used to use your helmet as weapon when you played because you didn't have the talent to hang.
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oh i'd have no problem with it , IF.......i thought the incompetent officials could make the right descisions. how many 15 yd penalties have you seen ,unjustly , handed out, because one of these incompetents decided a hit on a qb didn't meet the new standards ? i'm all for throwing out guys who take cheap shots like the one that was put on trent green.
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oh i'd have no problem with it , IF.......i thought the incompetent officials could make the right descisions. how many 15 yd penalties have you seen ,unjustly , handed out, because one of these incompetents decided a hit on a qb didn't meet the new standards ? i'm all for throwing out guys who take cheap shots like the one that was put on trent green.
Like I said, I'd rather err on the side of caution than have the NFL do nothing at all so head hunters like AJ Hawk can keep taking cheap shots to mask their lack of talent.
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