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Old 11-11-2007, 10:00 AM   #21
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Like I said, I'd rather err on the side of caution than have the NFL do nothing at all so head hunters like AJ Hawk can keep taking cheap shots to mask their lack of talent.
actually they have been handing out fines left and right. i think thats the way to go. the problem is, 5 or ten grand hardly puts a dent in thier pockets. if they uped the stakes to 50 - 100 dollar range, then they'll take notice. as dan said, making a snap descicion is a bad idea, it should be reviewed by the governing body, not 1 person who may or may not have seen the hit clearly.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:05 AM   #22
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actually they have been handing out fines left and right. i think thats the way to go. the problem is, 5 or ten grand hardly puts a dent in thier pockets. if they uped the stakes to 50 - 100 dollar range, then they'll take notice. as dan said, making a snap descicion is a bad idea, it should be reviewed by the governing body, not 1 person who may or may not have seen the hit clearly.
OK, then bring the replay officials in to the mix. Let the referee go to the box and see what actually happened.

Fines are nothing. Even a $100,000 is nothing to someone like Merriman or Lewis. Even suspensions mean nothing in today's NFL. If you want teeth in the system, make it three strikes and you're out. After three flagrant helmet to helmet hits, you sit for a full season. Every flagrant hit after that is another season.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:12 AM   #23
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OK, then bring the replay officials in to the mix. Let the referee go to the box and see what actually happened.

Fines are nothing. Even a $100,000 is nothing to someone like Merriman or Lewis. Even suspensions mean nothing in today's NFL. If you want teeth in the system, make it three strikes and you're out. After three flagrant helmet to helmet hits, you sit for a full season. Every flagrant hit after that is another season.
i think that would lend a bit more credibility to the call. they could go something like...
1st time 1 game ,plus game check
2nd time 4 games ,plus game checks
3rd time out for season ,no pay
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:21 AM   #24
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i think that would lend a bit more credibility to the call. they could go something like...
1st time 1 game ,plus game check
2nd time 4 games ,plus game checks
3rd time out for season ,no pay
Exactly, make the money hurt and things will turn around in a hurry.
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Exactly, make the money hurt and things will turn around in a hurry.
ok, do you wanna go ahead and fax our ruling to Godell or should i ???
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ok, do you wanna go ahead and fax our ruling to Godell or should i ???
I think we let Nigel do it since he's the Patriots fan.
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I think we let Nigel do it since he's the Patriots fan.
you know the funny part is, the freakin schmuck probably is reading this....
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OK, then bring the replay officials in to the mix. Let the referee go to the box and see what actually happened.

Fines are nothing. Even a $100,000 is nothing to someone like Merriman or Lewis. Even suspensions mean nothing in today's NFL. If you want teeth in the system, make it three strikes and you're out. After three flagrant helmet to helmet hits, you sit for a full season. Every flagrant hit after that is another season.
Well why not have the replay officials decide how much of a fine should be imposed?

Cowher says on pregame he is on board with having the league office review and decide whether to suspend since it just puts another judgment call on the game officials.
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If the league wants a suspension, impose that for the next game just as the league imposes fines for flagrant hits only after the league office reviews the video of the play. It is hard enough to get the call right without having to then adjudicate specific intent and decide a penalty was so flagrant it requires immediate ejection..
good call dan. bill cowher just expressed this same sentiment almost verbatim, on the pre game show.

send it to gene washington, before any time is lost.
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good call dan. bill cowher just expressed this same sentiment almost verbatim, on the pre game show.

send it to gene washington, before any time is lost.
Just remove the threat of ejection totally. No more ejections for anything!
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