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Old 11-12-2007, 03:24 PM   #1
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Default Bad coaching on the last drive

I really disliked the play calling in the steelers last offensive series, with the ball on the 11 yard line and within a first down of winning the game, Arians called two WP runs inside the tackles (which didn't work in the entire 2nd half) and a QB draw with three receivers on man to man coverage. Basically they handed the ball to Cribbs wtf????? Thank God the Browns had that holding penalty and a poor time management. If we want to win the close games we have to be smarter in these type of situations.
However I am as glad as all steerles fans of getting the W and the division lead. Just my two cents.
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:31 PM   #2
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Default Re: Bad coaching on the last drive

the 2 runs were normal, just trying to wind down the clock, I agree the qb draw was weird, but hey, we got the win and that's what matters

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Old 11-12-2007, 03:58 PM   #3
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Default Re: Bad coaching on the last drive

As opposed to passing and possibly throwing (an) incompletion(s) that would have basically given the Browns a free timeout, or even worse, an INT? Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:12 PM   #4
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Default Re: Bad coaching on the last drive

The big problem was the timeout and the two minute warning. An incompletion would have given the clowns the ball with two minutes to get into FG range.

I'd have thrown a pass if we had one more play, just to catch them off guard, but running burned 45 seconds.
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:16 PM   #5
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Default Re: Bad coaching on the last drive

"Sometimes all you have to do is run the ball for no gain and everything will be OK."

1) Up to that point, the Browns hadn't gained 10 yards in a series since the 5 minute mark of the 2nd quarter.

2) They were out of time outs after the first play.

3) They wouldn't be able to throw long because we were blanketing them, and they couldn't work the sidelines or they'd risk an INT (Pola almost got one), so they would have to work the middle of the field and let the clock tick.

4) You have to assume an average punt; we didn't get one, but you can't plan for that.

5) Figuring that we'd stuffed them all afternoon, you gotta feel good about putting the game in the hands of the defense with 50+ yards to go and under a minute left. And that's what happened.

Like fs'76 says, if you throw incomplete, they get the ball with close to 2 minutes left; and that is enough time to tie the game and send it into OT, where a coin toss and Cribbs might decide the outcome.

I, for one, was ecstatic to see run, run, run. I liked the last call the best, because it eliminated the handoff that risked a fumble. I thought it was heady football.
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Default Re: Bad coaching on the last drive

I can see your points, as far as giving it back to Cribbs... I think 3 runs was a good move, could have potentially got the First and ended the game.. but it didnt work out that way....

thank God we won so we dont have to talk about things like this.
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I didn't like it either. We were all like WTF?
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Default Re: Bad coaching on the last drive

The bad coaching was (surprise!) on the special teams play before the last Steelers possession.

The Steelers had only 10 players on the field when the Browns quickly punted late in the fourth quarter, forcing Harrison to run on the field at the last minute. That caused Rossum, who said he was counting players, to refuse a fair catch and let the ball roll to the Steelers' 11.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/07316/833184-66.stm

Further evidence the ST play was a disaster yesterday. Rossum not fair catching cost the Steelers 10-15 yards, which required even more conservative play calling.

At that point the goals were to avoid avoid turnovers, avoid losing any more ground with a sack, and run clock with no incompletions. I agree the QB draw on third down was not a good call unless Arians thought the Browns were going into their standard 15 yard drops at that point, which was not likely since the Browns had to make a stop.

The Steelers are just fortunate there was a hold called on the Browns last punt return.
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Default Re: Bad coaching on the last drive

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The bad coaching was (surprise!) on the special teams play before the last Steelers possession.

The Steelers had only 10 players on the field when the Browns quickly punted late in the fourth quarter, forcing Harrison to run on the field at the last minute. That caused Rossum, who said he was counting players, to refuse a fair catch and let the ball roll to the Steelers' 11.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/07316/833184-66.stm

Further evidence the ST play was a disaster yesterday. Rossum not fair catching cost the Steelers 10-15 yards, which required even more conservative play calling.

At that point the goals were to avoid avoid turnovers, avoid losing any more ground with a sack, and run clock with no incompletions. I agree the QB draw on third down was not a good call unless Arians thought the Browns were going into their standard 15 yard drops at that point, which was not likely since the Browns had to make a stop.

The Steelers are just fortunate there was a hold called on the Browns last punt return.
I agree we had to keep the ball on the ground. However, I would have like to see some different runs in that situation. Maybe a draw play or let Willie try to break it outside, utilizing his speed.

But yeah, hindsight is 20/20.
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Default Re: Bad coaching on the last drive

The Bad coaching is on the Browns side for calling a time out, prior to our extra point, then using a challenge, and losing, burning another time out.

Thank god for that, zero time outs for the Browns on their final drive. Had to spike on 3rd down after Jokavisious catches the ball in the middle of the field.
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