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Old 11-14-2007, 03:55 PM   #1
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Default Arians was ON-Point

Remember in the beginning of the season when the Bruce came out and said that they were going to go to more thee wide receiver and shotgun sets so that they could get the ball down he field more . Well as of this week the Steelers are only second to the pats with big passing plays for the most yards.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:28 PM   #2
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Who would have ever thought that?
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:43 PM   #3
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Remember in the beginning of the season when the Bruce came out and said that they were going to go to more thee wide receiver and shotgun sets so that they could get the ball down he field more . Well as of this week the Steelers are only second to the pats with big passing plays for the most yards.
Bruce is a diamond in the rough. I think he's done darned good in his first year as OC and plays to his players' strengths.
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:15 PM   #4
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bruce arians learned under tom moore and was peyton mannings qb coach. his career mirrors his mentors in many ways-

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Moore made the transition to the majors in 1977 when he joined Chuck Noll's coaching staff at the Pittsburgh Steelers, initially serving as receivers coach. Within three years on the Steelers, Moore earned two Super Bowl rings and in 1983 he was promoted to quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator. For eight years, Moore and Tony Dungy, the Colts' head coach since 2002, were colleagues on Noll's coaching staff at Pittsburgh.

Leaving the Steelers in 1990, Moore served in senior offensive coaching roles for three teams in eight years, having the most success as offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions, the team which led the NFL in total offense in 1995 and was the first team in NFL history to have two receivers with over 100 catches in a season (Herman Moore and Brett Perriman).
im not suprised the direction this offense is taking in the least. what moore did with the lions (sanders, perriman, moore, and kramer) is almost as impressive as arians actually getting the browns to the playoffs with tim couch and kelly holcomb (name an offensive or defensive pro bowler from that year).

we had another teams member here who openly mocked arians having the gall to adopt some of the "colts" offensive philosophy (as if it were something foreign), when in reality it was the steelers offensive philosophy from the greatest dynasty, all along.

i think some people were poisonned into thinking it would never work by him, and that the "colts" system was peyton manning specific. but then again this members "king" married camilla parker .

arians plan has been a natural evolution and as we can see- "survival of the fittest".

arians plan has willie as the #2 rusher, heath miller as the #7 TE in rec yds (#1 in td's), and the steelers TE as a whole #1 in tds(10).

oh and ben #3 in td's and #2 in passer rating, and 3rd in rushing for a qb....

*awaits a typical patfans tactic of diversion and deflection by stating "yeah but if vick werent suspended ben would only be 4th in qb rushing yards".*
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I like how we are passing and all with the big plays but i would still like to his Najeh and willie pound a team to smithereens like AKA we should have done to the broncos.
Right now it is pass first run second
I think we would be more consistant if we went back to the old days run first huge plays off play action. But to defend Arians willie does have the most rushing attempts out of any one in the nfl with 212
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Arians was underappreciated in Cleveland. With mediocre talent to work with, he helped take the Browns to their only playoff appearance since their 1999 return with "superstars" like Tim Couch, Kelly Holcomb, and William Green heading the offense. Almost beat us in Pittsburgh too. The man deserves more credit than he gets.

It's no surprise that the Pittsburgh Offense evolved from the '3 yards and a cloud of dust' days of Cowher and has become more dynamic in his first year as the OC. Heck, this offense hung 38 on the Ravens in one game when they scored only 7 on them all of last year. That's a major improvement.
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I like how we are passing and all with the big plays but i would still like to his Najeh and willie pound a team to smithereens like AKA we should have done to the broncos.
Right now it is pass first run second


248 passes to 300 rushes (i know the official statline say 308 but im not about to count 8 charlie batch kneel downs as rushes).

did it seem like we passed alot against cleveland because we were down and ben finally won with more than "30 pass attempts in a game" () ? yes. but it was still perfect balance with 35 rush and 35 pass.

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248 passes to 300 rushes (i know the official statline say 308 but im not about to count 8 charlie batch kneel downs as rushes).

did it seem like we passed alot against cleveland because we were down and ben finally won with more than "30 pass attempts in a game" () ? yes. but it was still perfect balance with 35 rush and 35 pass.

i don't get it myself. 2006 willie avg...21.1 att/g.......2007 21.2....att/g
and just think.....the fans used to always bitch that cowher was too PREDICTABLE...
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248 passes to 300 rushes (i know the official statline say 308 but im not about to count 8 charlie batch kneel downs as rushes).

did it seem like we passed alot against cleveland because we were down and ben finally won with more than "30 pass attempts in a game" () ? yes. but it was still perfect balance with 35 rush and 35 pass.

OK I am whipping out some stats here so be ready

ok exactly 35 passes what about the formula that got us to 15-1 a couple season back
where Roethlisberger would go 12/18 pass for a buck 50 and we would run it 45 times and they would know it was coming but couldnt stop it.

That year when we faced that brutal stretch where the Pats were 8-0 and had won 22 straight games and I think the Eagles were 8-1.

And we beat those team with a combine score 61-27
Ben in those combine in that 2 game stretch 42/29

and we ran a total of 85 times 390 yards

thats the kind of steelers football I personally believe would have the best success
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Arians also asks for more zone blocking, which the Steelers are apparently not great at. And he runs a lot of crossing routes which need a little more time for the WR's to get open. So far it's worked due to Ben's improvisation. But I do LOVE the Steelers airing it out a bit.
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