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Old 11-25-2007, 08:17 AM   #11
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If I were a Patriots fan (shoot me in the head) and somebody came up to me and asked me to pick between Moss or Brady, I would take Brady in a second. Brady was winning Super Bowls long before Moss arrived.

Bottomline IMO, if Brady ends up getting injured that team is done. If Moss is out, they would survive. Brady is the head of the snake.
Thank You...someone finally understands. Moss MVP over Brady? Are you kidding me? Brady didn't need Moss to be a winner. What has Moss won before coming to NE? On top of all that....Brady is hitting other receivers. He has made Welker a better receiver and he always uses his TE's. I believe Brady has hit his TE's and Vrabel more often that any other team. To say that one piece of Brady's puzzle is the MVP is crazy!!
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:03 PM   #12
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Moss would revert back to whatever the Hell you call him if the L's started piling up. I hate Brady. He's smug and arrogant and a crybaby when things don't go his way, but he's a great QB whether the team is winning or not (I'm going to go wash my hands for 3 hours now after actually touching the keys that spelled that out!). Moss is a POS if there is the slightest bit of adversity.

And Whitlock lost me last week when he said that Missouri/Kansas is the greatest rivalry in college football. Yeah, it was a nice game, and the people in those two states care some, but the game hasn't ever been relevant before and probably won't ever be again.
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:08 PM   #13
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Default Re: Moss is more valuable than Brady

You take moss out the pattys still have welker, stallworth and ben watson. You take brady out you have matt cassell. Sounds to me that brady is more valuable
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you take moss off the pats and you have the same old brady youve had any other year... one who was NEVER voted as league MVP

we all know brady is the most important person on his team. but it is the mvp of the league award and not a lifetime achievement award. moss is said to be the difference of a sb this year. brady wasnt the difference in the past 2.

brady needs moss. moss needs any above average qb who has above average protection in the pocket.

make no mistake about it though, moss is a frontrunner. just like t.o. and chad johnson, they are mdp's (most disruptive player) if they dont have mvp type numbers.
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Brady has won without Moss ,and doesn't "need" him. He has won with a less that stellar receiving corp. Brady is by far the most important player on that team. Moss has helped him tremendously this year by padding his stats, but they would still be undefeated IMO without Moss.
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Brady has won without Moss ,and doesn't "need" him. He has won with a less that stellar receiving corp. Brady is by far the most important player on that team. Moss has helped him tremendously this year by padding his stats, but they would still be undefeated IMO without Moss.
then how come they werent undefeated last year, or the year before, or ever? stallworth and welker are good players, but they are no more the difference makers than branch, gaffney, caldwell, or gabriel were/are, without moss on the other side of the field.
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The Pats went undefeated this year?

Gosh, where did my 2007 go? I seem to have shuffled it off around Thanksgiving!
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I don't know if Randy has helped Brady more then Brady has helped Randy.....Its safe to say his two years in Oakland Randy Moss didn't look like MVP material.....While Tom Brady was already great without Randy.........Its safe to say the Pats making that trade for Randy saved his career.........Some interesting points but I would still give the MVP to Brady....With Favre being a close second...Hell I think Big Ben should be ahead of Randy Moss.....
I realize he was on a bad team, but he didn't lift a finger to help his own, or the Raiders' cause. The guy was a complete and utter quitter... a total waist of roster space. For that, I will alway despise him.

The year he is having with the Pats is proof of what a front running, immature , quitting little bitch he really is. The Raiders may have won another game or two had quitter boy actually put forth some effort. But no... he wasn't on a winning team, so he just quit.

Would I be upset if I were Moss last year?...HELL YES! Would I have quit on my team and teammates because I wasn't happy?...HELL NO! Thats because I'm a man, and Randy is a little bitch. FUKC RANDY MOSS!
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:45 AM   #19
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then how come they werent undefeated last year, or the year before, or ever? stallworth and welker are good players, but they are no more the difference makers than branch, gaffney, caldwell, or gabriel were/are, without moss on the other side of the field.
I don't know how someone who knows football could honestly say what you are saying....was Moss a winner in Minnesota? NO. Was Moss a winner in Oakland? NO. If Moss is the show like you seem to claim, why is this Moss's first taste of being on a Superbowl contending team? Brady may have never went undefeated before, but it's not like NE didn't add Welker and Stallworth. Brady is a winner without Moss. Always has been and always will be. The same can not be said for Moss without Brady.
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The difference between a team with Moss and without Moss is a couple of regular season wins.

The difference between a team with Brady and without Brady is the difference between a dynasty and a mediocre franchise.
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